Talk:Nicolaus Ricci de Nucella Campli/GA1

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Reviewer: MPJ-DK (talk · contribs) 12:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

I will be picking up the review of this one - both for the Wiki Cup and the GA cup as well. I will be making my review comments over the next couple of days.

Side note, I would love some input on a couple of Featured List candidate NWA World Historic Welterweight Championship. I am not asking for Quid pro Quo, but all help is appreciated.  MPJ-US  12:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

@Mscuthbert: - I am confused by the naming of the article, reading the lead I see the following names

• Nicolaus Savini Mathei
• Ricii de Nucella Campli
• Niccolò Ricci
• Nucella,

None of those are the actual name of the article? Why is that?  MPJ-US  21:44, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

GA Toolbox

I like to get this checked out first, I have found issues using this that has led to quick fails so it's important this passes muster.

Peer review tool

• WP:LEAD is too short. should be two paragraphs please.
• Are there no info boxes for composers or singers?
• Artice is short - 2968 k of "readable prose", 503 words. That's on the short side for a Good Article, but the criteria is really if it's "broad" in coverage, I will be reviewing that further down the page.

Copyright violations Tool

• No issues Y

Disambiguation links

• No issues Y

External links

• No issues Y

Well Written

• "Only a single work by Nicolaus is known," does not need the comma
• "From his name we can guess", for an encylopedic article this is a problem, saying "we can guess", if it was phrased that "scholars guessed" or something that may be better but still borderline weasel word
• "In February 13, 1436" should be "on", the word "in" would be approprate for "February 1436"
• "On recommendation from the Cardinal" should be "On the recommendation of the Cardinal"
• There is only a source for the statement that it was not by Zachara, not who it was actually written by?
• Question - If no other work of his has been preserved how would they know that it was Nicolaus' and not someone else?
• "Nicolaus Ricii's ballata "De bon parole" was edited in Polyphonic Music" I am not sure that the term "editited" is appropriate here, "Polyphonic Music of the Fourteenth Century" is a book right?
• The Edition and recording section is confusing, looking like it's trying to give a citation half way through it?

Sources/verifiable

• Reference 4 needs more data than just the title, which does not actually match the title on the web page. Also I am not sure what this is actually supposed to source?
• Reference 13 also needs more data about the actual source - consider checking out the various parameters for the template:cite web options.
• The "Edition and recording" section is basically unsourced except for the very last claim.

Broad in coverage

• It is really short and very narrow in coverage, it cannot even narrow down his birth year or death year? Reading this I get the impression that it's believed that he wrote this one piece with the name "Nucella" on it and that seems to be the only notable event? And I see no source actually stating that the person mentioned in the "life" section is the same guy in the "music" section - considering "Nucella" seems to be a place reference that's quite a leap. I know that the furter back history goes the lower the bar on "notable" is, but this is nuding at the bar from what's presented in this article.

This is really the sticking point of this article, the "music" section covers the work, but does very little to tie it to the guy this article is about. No sources cited to cover that. This would have to be addressed and sourced to be considered a "good article"

Neutral

• No issues Y

Stable

• Looks okay, no issues Y

Illustrated / Images

• license ect. checks out for the image, shame there is nothing on the actual composer

@Mscuthbert: - There are some baisc issues, the article does not really state his notability nor clearly link the person with the piece. I am going to put this on hold for up to 7 days to allow for adjustments to be made. MPJ-US  22:18, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

• Alright, well good luck. MPJ-US  10:07, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Withdraw

Ah, thanks -- I withdraw the Nomination. And I'll take another 6 month wikibreak. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 07:14, 1 May 2016 (UTC)