Talk:Nikah 'urfi

This form of Nikah (marriage) is not practiced in all Muslim countries. Nikah urfi would be considered illegal in Pakistan. Siddiqui 02:24, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

POV

"Most of the Islamic countries do not recognize 'Urfi marriages, but it's still recognized by God since it's sworn to God": WP doesn't tell about what God recognizes or not. The whole text is written from a believer's perspective - this might explain the absence of footnotes indicating sources. --tickle me 20:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I would like to add : This orfi, as it is called most of the times, is causing huge problems in the whole of Egypt, but specially in the tourist areas like Luxor, Hurghada, Sharm el Sheik. The in the article called "summer quests", being women-tourits most of the times, marry the orfi way to be able to stay and/or travel with her holiday-boyfriend without beeing questioned by the tourist police. For any muslim sex before marriage is forbidden, it is punishable with upto 3 month in jail. So this once decent way of having a relationship is meanwhile a wellknown and often and openly used way for sex-tourism. Specially in Luxor it is causing huge problems inside society: The more "sugar-mummies" (as the mainly elderly european women having Orfi with young egyptian men are called) fill the streets the more difficult it is for "normal" traveller not to be seen as the next potentiall "client". Means you are not offered to buy oil, goods or souverniers, but sex. But worse: The kids living (or working) in these areas get role-modells of a lifestyle they start to learn as "the european way", like a kid told me "Democracy is european. Democracy means, you are allowed to do everthing. Look at the european ladies having orfi just for their fun, and a new one every year". Orfi, in Luxor, is simply sex-tourism. It became big business by builing apartmenthouses maily for this purpose: most hotels do not accept orfi-couples. There are a lot of chats inside the web about it, too. Maybe you could (I cannot, I´m not really good in computers...) add some links to those sides, give advice to check them. I hate to admit it, but: some women see it as emancipation: if men do, so can we... . But mainly you´ll find ripped of ladies, who believed in true love, now seeking advice how to get divorced, get their money back they lended the guy etc. - and disgusted egyptian women who are forced to stand by and watch their ethics being destroied.

Giving only information about the traditional meaning of orfi - is a times gone by.

Very useful info. Any sources so that we add it? Zezen (talk) 07:57, 8 February 2016 (UTC) Zezen (talk) 07:57, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Sources

Urfi marriages are known and increasingly common in some Muslim countries. That being said, there is only one source for the article. A reader unfamiliar with the term might not realize that this practice passes the general notability guideline; perhaps we can scavenge some sources from the Nikah mut‘ah article? MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Not only does the article still suffer from a lack of references, the external links seem sloppy and chosen for dramatic effect rather than ability to inform. The current version only has two, one of which is hot-linked to the current front page of the Times (updated daily) but seems, from title, to mean to link to this http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article1930619.ece article, currently over half-a-dozen years old and not of a very informative character-though it does have an evocative and provocative headline, if not much else. While it could stand as an introduction to the subject, this article is very unpolished and may simply preserve conflicting biases and bodies of personal research, by warring editors, rather than present an objective and supported point of view. 71.235.31.212 (talk) 02:24, 23 April 2015 (UTC)