Talk:Nike Oregon Project

Some inaccuracies

Some inaccuracies appeared in the Leadership section (and other sections) of this article on 4 Sept, through the efforts of an anonymous poster [213.34.251.81]. Here is the summary of the inaccurate info that was added to the article on 4 Sept, and has been subsequently fixed:

• Jerry Schumacher has joined the Nike Oregon Project itself, not a “separate group” as the IP user has written. [Sources: http://www.tracktownusa.com/track.item.55/Alberto-Salazar-Brings-Jerry-Schumacher-to-Nike-Oregon-Project.html, and the Portland Oregonian newspaper http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/121384410435070.xml&coll=7.] Virtually all track teams and track clubs have multiple coaches (e.g., sprints, middle distance, long distance, field events), each coaching different athletes, but they are still part of the same organization. Schumacher’s runners are part of the Nike Oregon Project; they just train under Schumacher, as Salazar’s runners train under him. When the source cited by the poster as evidence of this [6] mentions two groups (on page 2), it’s in reference to Schumacher’s Wisconsin collegiate and professional runners, which are indeed two separate groups. Instead of citing a news article, the contributor makes the statement, “inside sources claim,” which doesn’t meet an acceptable standard for a source (i.e., published).
• Source [6] is cited as evidence that there is a plan to merge two separate groups when Salazar retires, but the source contains no mention of separate groups or such a plan. In fact, Salazar’s name does not appear even once in the article (nor mention of his retirement, of course).
• One of the new references [4] cited by this contributor does not exist. From the incorrect URL given [1], it appears to be a forum post rather than an actual news article anyway.
• All references, including the one added by the contributor-- e.g., [6]—mention that Salazar considers Schumacher the eventual successor, so the odd revision made (referring to the future succession as “speculation” rather than fact) actually makes the article more inaccurate than the previous version.
• The change from “Amy Yoder-Begley, a 2008 Olympian at 10,000 meters” to “Amy Yoder-Begley, and a 2008 Olympian at 10,000 meters” does not make any sense grammatically. The deletion of Tegenkamp is inexplicable as well.
• Just a style point, but the contributor uses “Jerry” repeatedly when referring to Schumacher, which introduces a different naming style than that used in the rest of the article.

The version of Barek dated 16 August 2008 is the more factually accurate version, so the content has been reverted to that. The prior citations have also been restored, since the new citations are not relevant and do not add any new factual information not present in the previous citations. Tracktowner (talk) 02:10, 8 September 2008(UTC)

Tags

I've remove the OR tag since its not addressed on the talk page. The refimprove tag may still be valid, but the article is sufficiently well refferenced that it's better to tag individual statements now. Rich Farmbrough, 12:15 8 September 2008 (GMT).

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Can someone please explain what a 'low-gravity treadmill' is - and how it can be operated on a planet of constant mass....? Cheers Mark

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First paragraph has an advertising tone

In the introductory paragraph, lots of it seems like an advertisement. "Elite coaching, revolutionary training and use of air thinning technology" seems sensationalized to me. Also the part in that paragraph that talks about the high altitude house seems oddly specific and I think it needs its own section. Agree or disagree?AlexDFischer (talk) 22:37, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

New information needs to be included about evidence of abuse

Need to update article with salient information documented in: The Longest Race: Inside the Secret World of Abuse, Doping, and Deception on Nike's Elite Running Team Hardcover – March 14, 2023 ISBN 978-1982179144 2601:401:501:AA50:809A:D4C9:F4CD:D9FE (talk) 00:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)