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Hi @IJBall: The 2017 photo change have not be discussed. Also the photo is not free. And the 2017 photo is blunt. --Panam2014 (talk) 17:19, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what you mean by "the photo is not free" (I'm guessing if it were a WP:COPYVIO, somebody would have caught it a long time ago...). Assuming it's not a copyvio, I prefer the 2017 image as a better portrait photo. And it shouldn't be changed unless there is consensus, or a policy-based reason, to do so. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:22, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

@IJBall: being blunt is a serious problem. For the copyvio please read the FfD in Commons.--Panam2014 (talk) 17:25, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

I dunno what "being blunt" means. As for the copyvio discussion on Commons, let it play out – if the image is deleted, we can replace it then. We don't need to do it now. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

@IJBall: the arguments in Commons are true and we have the proof that the file is not free so there are no reason to wait the deletion for removing the file. The file is blurry. --Panam2014 (talk) 17:36, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Bulgarian is correct

She was born in Bulgaria and then moved to Canada, so that would make her Bulgarian-Canadian. Let's keep that in the intro. Kay girl 97 (talk) 04:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

No. We don't put ethnicity in the lede as per WP:BLPLEAD. She is a Canadian citizen, and her notable (early) works were done there. "Canadian actress" is correct. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:07, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

If this is brought up again, consider the archives, where it turned out that every single account that argued for "Bulgarian" (or variants thereof), turned out to be a sockpuppet of one and the same person. I see similar arguments in the discussion above as the old accounts. Nymf (talk) 13:25, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

So I read that Bulgaria does allow dual citizenship, but VERY rarely allowed in most cases, so I guess just Canadian is correct Kay girl 97 (talk) 04:22, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Nationality and WP:BLPLEAD

I'll get the ball rolling on this. WP:BLPLEAD states that BLP leads (or ledes) should contain "3. Context (location or nationality);" and then goes on to specify this about 'Context':

"The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases this will be the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if the person is notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when here person became notable. Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability."

Based on this, Dobrev's citizenship and primary initial place of work was Canada, so "... is a Canadian actress... is certainly appropriate and correct.

The question is whether her being born in Sofia, Bulgaria "contributes" to her notability. I think in this case, you can argue it does. However, in general, ethnicity should not be mentioned in the lead.

Based on all of this, I think I would prefer the following wording for the lead: "...better known as Nina Dobrev, is a Bulgarian-born Canadian actress." (emphasis mine), over the current wording: "is a Bulgarian-Canadian actress."

Are there any objections to this revised wording?... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:46, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

• She has a Bulgarian citizenship, as the article in Struma says. I'm not sure she is Canadian citizen or just living temporary in this country. Today this actress is living and working in USA. But she lives in Sofia too. And in Toronto too. Because of that my first edit here was only "Bulgarian actress". But she is notable for 2 countries (Bulgaria and Canada), well I think Bulgarian - Canadian is the best variant here. Regards! --Targatron (talk) 18:19, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
  • She is known primarily for her work in Canada (esp. early in her career), so "Canadian" actress is correct in that respect. IOW, she is not known as a "Bulgarian actress", so that in the lead would be inaccurate. Again, ethnicity is almost never indicated in BLP lead's, so "Bulgarian-born Canadian" actress is likely the best approach here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
    • I don't talk about ethnicity. I said she has a Bulgarian citizenship/nationality. Actuaully she is known like a Bulgarian actress and often considered herself that in many interviews. The fact that her movie career was starting in Canadian serial doesn't matter in this case. What about Charlie Chaplin? English or American? He was born in England, but he make a career in USA. In wikipedia article about him is written "English actor" and he is known as English. And was an English.

Actually Nina Dobrev became a popular as Bulgarian character Katerina Petrova in US production Vampire diaries, when she even speak Bulgarian language.--Targatron (talk) 20:08, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

• It doesn't matter that her ethnicity is Bulgarian, or that she speaks Bulgarian, or even that she holds a Bulgarian passport in addition to a Canadian one. She is notable for activities undertaken after leaving Bulgaria (at age two), so it's clear that she should be referred to as a Canadian. The only caveat would be if a significant aspect of her notability is linked to her being Bulgarian. I would argue not, she is notable for being an actress, being Bulgarian has little to do with why she is famous. LK (talk) 11:26, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Let's make a simple! What the 'Context' said:

"... In most modern-day cases this will be the country of which the person is a citizen (this country is Bulgaria in this case), national or permanent resident, or if the person is notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen (Bulgaria, she is still Bulgarian citizen)... Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth (there is no previous, because she is Bulgarian before and now) should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability."--Targatron (talk) 22:31, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Please produce reliable sources that state that she currently holds a valid Bulgarian passport. Being born in a country, doesn't mean that you are always a citizen of that country, especially if your parents emigrated when you were two years old. Without a reliable source stating that she is a Bulgarian national, what you are stating is original research. LK (talk) 07:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

The sources are in the article. By the Bulgarian constitution she can' t lose her Bulgarian citizenship, even if she have a passport of another country. Actually the only correct nationality is Bulgarian, because we have not a source about any Canadian citizenship. My first version was a "Bulgarian actress" only. So, find a reliable source that she have a Canadian citizenship, please! Regards!--Targatron (talk) 21:01, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Enough! Lawrencekhoo is correct about what WP:BLPLEAD says, and his most recent version was a good compromise on this issue. Drop it, or you risk possible sanctions for edit warring. Just accept that consensus (and WP:BLPLEAD) is against you on this. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:38, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Please, stop to delete the sources! It's a vandalism. Find a reliable source that she have a Canadian citizenship. By BLPLEAD she is also only Bulgarian ( read my previous comments). Your non- argument position seems like any sort of Canadian nationalism. All of your edits here are related to delete the sources which do not support your point of view. It's a absolutely censorship. It's a not constructive. So, again, find a source for canadian citizenship of the actress! --Targatron (talk) 10:17, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

It's not "vandalism", and you are edit-warring, and I'm about ready to report you to WP:ANEW for it. This has already been explained to you – it is clear that all of her notable roles were when she was in Canada, and so "Canadian" actress is correct. Lawrencekhoo even came up with a compromise version, which mentions what you want, and you are ignoring it. At this point, you are ignoring consensus and WP:POV-pushing. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:51, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Dobrev is clearly Canadian, whether she has citizenship or not. See Canadians. Canadian citizenship is not the only requirement to be considered Canadian, and is not even a required condition. We have multiple sources that show that she is considered to be a Canadian. I won't comment on how or if the Bulgarian origin should be included, but there is no justification for removing Canadian. Meters (talk) 19:58, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

There are 2 sources in the article that she is Bulgarian. Probably Bulgarian - Canadian is the best consensus variant here, which was there long time before yuor vandal actions. (See the history of the page). For now your only argument for "Canadian" is by logic "God said: She is Canadian!". The sources and cited documents says she is Bulgarian and that must be mentoined in the article. --Targatron (talk) 03:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

You're edit warring, and have been reported for such. At this point, it's clear that you are not interested in being constructive on this, and are simply POV-pushing. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:48, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

My opinion is Bulgarian-Canadian is a correct sentence here, because is representing the two POV--195.24.37.106 (talk) 04:33, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

One, you need to look up WP:Sock puppetry. Two, we've already dealt with your concerns, in the new last paragraph in the lede. You keep this up, and you are looking at an indefinite block. You seriously need to drop the stick. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:41, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, there is no problem with Bulgarian-Canadian. It's a content which shows your point of view and my point of view, the Bulgarian POV and the Canadian POV; and to stop that disruptive edit wars. Deal?--Targatron (talk) 05:58, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Hey guys, i was just about to ask why is Nina described as just Canadian when she is a Bulgarian? Then i saw this discussion. Can anyone tell me why is her Bulgarian nationality not mentioned in the first sentence? Virtually every British-born American actor is described as British or English. Why is Nina not described as Bulgarian? To my knowledge she still holds Bulgarian citizenship, and she is born in Bulgaria. Shouldn't she be described as Bulgarian-Canadian acress? It sounds a little unfair to omit the Bulgarian aspet of her. 85.130.83.238 (talk) 23:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I believe that there are multiple reasons why she is not described as "Bulgarian-Canadian". Firstly, where a person is born and what nationality they are born in is not always relevant to their notability especially in cases where someone immigrates with their family as a baby or small child and becomes a citizen of a different nation under which they achieve their notability. This is the case for Nina Dobrev. In the case of some individuals, the individual may not even be a national/citizen of their country of birth any longer. Furthermore, we don't include every single nationality that a person has but rather the nationality under which they achieved their notability. Otherwise, we end up cluttering the lead potentially (depending on how many citizenships the individual has) and more importantly co-opting that person's achievements under an identity which was not the primary one under which they accomplished their achievements. When we say "Bulgarian-Canadian", we identify her as Bulgarian first, when in reality being Bulgarian had little to nothing to do with her achievements as an actress in Canada as a Canadian. For the same reason that Robert De Niro who has both US and Italian citizenships is not described as an "Italian-American" but rather just as an American, we describe Nina as "Canadian". If she had lived in Bulgaria and achieved notability as a Bulgarian actress prior to immigrating and then gained fame as a Canadian actress, this would be different. Point blank, simply being born in a certain nationality does not warrant inclusion in the lead unless that person is known for achievements under that nationality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorva Iyer (talk • contribs) 23:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I am not an expert on Wikipedia and how things work here, but i was under the impression that this is more of a biography page or a description page of who this individual is. There are two things i do not understand about your argument. Number one, you talk about her notability and achievements, but isn't that rather information about her career? The first sentence describes who she is as an individual and person, not just her career as a movie star. The sentence describes her as a Canadian person because she has a Canadian citizenship, but she also has a Bulgarian citizenship, so i can't understand why is her Bulgarian citizenship ignored as a description of who this person is? The second thing i don't understand is that, you said that she achieved her notability as a Canadian citizen, but that is not true, she always had a Bulgarian citizenship, so doesn't that mean she achieved her notability as a Bulgarian and Canadian citizen at the same time? To my understanding, her career is largely in the United States, and she became famous in her American movies, not Canadian movies. I think it is wrong to describe her as Canadian, given that she still holds her Bulgarian citizenship. In your own logic, she achieved career success under both BG and Canadian citizenship, but i do not think her career success should have anything to do with the simple fact that she is legally and ethnically a Bulgarian national, and i think it is misleading to people to call her just Canadian. 85.130.83.238 (talk) 13:30, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

WP:BLPLEAD has already been extensively quoted in this discussion – you may want to read it again, esp. the "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability." part, which is directly relevant here – Dobrev is not notable because "she was born in Bulgaria", she's notable for the acting she's done. There is already a consensus compromise in place on this, as the lede mentions where she was born. But "Bulgarian-Canadian" is wrong, wrong, wrong, and should not be added to lede, as per the above. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:38, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Dobrev is not notable because "she was born in Bulgaria", she's notable for the acting she's done. OK, then why is she described as Canadian? She is not notable because she has a Canadian citizenship, right? So why is she described as Canadian then? I am still waiting for an explanation as to why is Bulgarian-Canadian wrong, given that she has a Canadian and Bulgarian citizenship? Your argument about notability contradicts itself. She is not notable because she has a Canadian citizenship. 85.130.83.238 (talk) 19:19, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes, to reaffirm what the individual above stated, I think the Wikipedia rules make this pretty clear. But to add to what the individual above has stated, many individuals are dual citizens, but that does not warrant inclusion of both nationalities in the lead. The case I provided was Robert de Niro. Him being an Italian citizen does not warrant inclusion in the lead because he did not achieve notability in Italy. His achievements were in America. For a similar reason, we do not describe Nina Dobrev as Bulgarian-Canadian, but rather as Canadian. I think the mistake many people make is in thinking that being of a certain ethnicity or birth nationality automatically warrants inclusion in the lead. But they don't seem to have a very good reason for thinking that. The lead is reserved for the salient aspects of the notability of the individual. Personal information about their past, including what nationalities they may have been born into, what ethnicity they are, and other personal matters such as sexuality, religion, etc. are appropriate for inclusion in the early life section, not the lead. When people insist on putting this type of information in the lead, I can't help but think some people want to attribute her notability and success to a country of her ethnicity or birth out of personal interests in said country and "taking collective credit" for the individual's success rather than being honest about where the person actually achieved their notability and the entire reason they're even on wikipedia in the first place. I am not saying that any individuals commenting on here are necessarily doing that, but rather that is certainly the motivation of some individuals I have come across while editing on Wikipedia. But that is neither here nor there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorva Iyer (talk • contribs) 23:57, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Again, if that is the case, then why is she described as Canadian, since she achieved her success in America, and she is notable for her success in Hollywood, not Canada? You say that, quote: salient aspects of the notability of the individual, so you are saying that she being a Canadian citizen is the salient aspects of her notability? What i am objecting is this incredible subjectivity and double standarts. You contradict yourself. If the aspects of her notability are to be in the lede, then why is she described as Canadian? She is not notable because she is Canadian? Above you said something else, you said that she is described as Canadian because she achieved success under Canadian citizen, but now you are changing your narrative when i told you that she achieved success under both - Canadian and Bulgarain citizen. So explain to me why is her being Canadian more relevnat to her career success than her being Bulgarian? Also, why is arnold schwarzenegger described as Austrian-American, since his entire notability has been achieved in America, not Austria? 85.130.83.238 (talk) 19:29, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Because she is Canadian; that's why. That alone is notable. However, she is not a Canadian actress as all her work, from what I gather, has been as her as an American. So for works, she is notable as an American actress. Amaury (talk | contribs) 20:03, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

But she is ALSO Bulgarian! She obtained Canadian citizenship, but she is ethnically and legally still a Bulgarian national and citizen. She is born in Bulgaria to Bulgarian parents, she is ethnically Bulgarian, and she still holds her Bulgarian citizenship. So why is she described as Canadian, but not Bulgarian? 85.130.83.238 (talk) 20:49, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

As far as I am aware, she is not an American citizen. Let's look at the Wikipedia guidelines: "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases this will be the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if the person is notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable. Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability." I believe Nina Dobrev first achieved notability from Degrassi, which was a Canadian program and so Canadian is actually quite appropriate to go in the lead as it is both her nationality and the nation under which she achieved notability. I see what you mean by the fact that she may have been a citizen of Bulgaria as well throughout the duration of her notability but it does not figure into any of her achievements which all took place in Canada and yes, the USA. However, she is a citizen of Canada, not the USA so if we were to edit her intro statement to include the USA, we would say something like "Canadian actress based in the USA". And yes, there are many biographical profiles of people who are described with birth nationality even if that does not factor into their notability whatsoever, but those are pages that should also be edited in accordance to Wikipedia guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorva Iyer (talk • contribs) 20:13, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

I do not agree that she achieved notability from Degrassi, i think it is more than obvious that she achieved notability from The Vampire Diaries. Nobody even knew who she was before that major TV series. The Wikipedia guideline you quoted above argues my case. It states that the country where the person is a citizen or national should be given as a context. The country she is a citizen and national is Bulgaria and Canada, is it not? So according to the Wikipedia guidelines, Bulgaria must be included in the lede as a context for the country she is a citizen of. I have never seen any Wikipedia biolgraphy page of a celebrity born in a foreign country, but who became a star in America, and who wasn't described as something-American. The example you gave me of De niro is not relevant because he is not born in Italy, and he is not Italian-Italian. Even his parents were not Italian. The case with Nina is completely different, it is more similar with Arnold or many others i can cite. I understand that there aren't many Bulgarians here on Wikipedia, and there are a lot of you, so you can easily overpower me. But i do not agree and do not give me consent to this completely unfair description of Nina, which is even in violation of the guidelines. Nobody here has given me any reasonable explanation as to why is Bulgaria omited from the lede, implying that she being Canadian citizen is more relevant than she being Bulgarian citizen. I hope you can be fair-minded with me, and not abuse your obvious power, if not, i will try to contact admins. This is completely unfair. 85.130.83.238 (talk) 21:10, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

"the example you gave me of De niro is not relevant because he is not born in Italy, and he is not Italian-Italian. Even his parents were not Italian. The case with Nina is completely different, it is more similar with Arnold or many others i can cite" Ah but this is where you are mistaken. Being born in a country does NOT make you somehow more a part of that country or a national of that country than someone who is a citizen of a country but wasn't born there. I think that is a mistake many others make as well. And Wikipedia corroborates this when it says that place of birth or previous nationalities are not included in the lead unless directly relevant to notability. Just because Robert De Niro was not born in Italy does not make him less "Italian-American" or not "Italian-Italian" whatever that means. Being a citizen of a country is being a citizen of a country, period. And that country or nationality having relevance to your notability is still a question to be asked per Wikipedia guidelines. For Nina Dobrev, I think if we are being honest with ourselves, it is clear that her notability is from a Canadian citizenship. Whether you think she was famous from Degrassi or not is irrelevant, as she DID gain notability via the program. It may not have been her most notable program, but it certainly was one of the first notable activities she did in her career as an actress. Other wikipedia articles like you mention may add "something-american" for some individuals but again, many of these are not following wikipedia guidelines and should be edited per guidelines. If you contact admin, I think looking at Wiki guidelines it is likely they will support this side of her as a Canadian actress rather than "Bulgarian-Canadian". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorva Iyer (talk • contribs) 08:16, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

She is definately a Canadian citizen, I read an article from last year where she was asked if she voted in the 2016 elections. She said no, she only had a green card at the time. Kay girl 97 (talk) 05:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Should we change the short description?

The short description says "Bulgarian-Canadian" and I can't fix it due to it being protected. Can anyone fix it? And should we say "Bulgarian-born Canadian" or just "Canadian"? Kay girl 97 (talk) 23:57, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I'd say if we change it, it should just be "Canadian". We don't usually include birthplace in the lead so I wouldn't see why we'd include it in the short description either. Apoorva Iyer (talk) 00:23, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

It was in the Wikidata – I've changed it to just "Canadian actress and model" as per the lede, and the numerous discussions here on this Talk page. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:24, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Personal Life

She started to date her TVD co-star Ian Somerhalder in 2010, but they broke up in 2013. Nonepeace (talk) 23:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Even if sourced, the casual dating lives of celebrities is considered WP:GOSSIP, and is not an encyclopedic concern. That goes triple if this kind of thing doesn't even receive significant coverage in the mainstream (i.e. non-tabloid) media. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:28, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Profile

Find a better profile picture for her instead of a candid one. Jwlrd (talk) 17:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

You have to find one that isn't copyrighted. If you take a random picture off the Internet without the original photographer's permission, you risk violating copyright laws. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kay girl 97 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

This lead is bad. Period.

I had to do it.

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This [the 2018 image] basically looks like she’s saying, “whuuuuuh?” The image from 2012’s Comic Con is much better as the main photo, no matter how old it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trillfendi (talk • contribs) 04:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Support restoring the 2018 image to the infobox. While I generally am not an advocate of using the "most recent image", in this case the alternative choice is from 2012, which is seven years ago. So we're better off with the 2018 image, for now, until a better image comes along...

However, I've included an alternative choice from this year (2019). I'd support that one in the infobox over the 2012 image as well. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:18, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

This isn't about whether or not she looks dazed, or high or not, it's choosing one that isn't copyrighted or violates free license agreement, so 90 % it's going to be a candid shot. And I agree, the 2012 one is outdated. Just keep the current one Kay girl 97 (talk) 21:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

She's doing a natural smile. Not looking into the camera doesn't mean unprofessional. Kay girl 97 (talk) 21:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Candid doesn’t always mean good. For example, on Denzel Washington’s page there was a TERRIBLE “candid” photo from 2014, at the premiere of The Equalizer, where he looked ridiculous so a picture from almost 20 years ago had to suffice. If it’s in the commons that means the license was approved. Recent doesn’t inherently equal better. Trillfendi (talk) 03:12, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Change the main profile pic it doesn't look good. Make it a recent pic. Do one from the ema honors last night or the marie claire event this year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwlrd (talk • contribs) 13:17, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Until everyone agrees, not going to happen. Kay girl 97 (talk) 00:35, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2019

In a recent video on youtube where Nina does a lie detector test she says konstantinova is her mother and her idk middle name? Is kamenova so: Nikolina Kamenova Dobreva. Stydmia (talk) 07:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done Because you have not provided specific information about the source (e.g. URL, exact timestamp, whether it is a valid WP:RS), and have not made clear what change you want made. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 12:38, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

https://www.self.com/story/nina-dobrev-vampire-diaries-whats-next/amp

Found this. Her real dad's name is Kamen Dobrev hence Kamenova.

I read somewhere else that her mom and dad got a divorce later. Her mom met Konstanin (last name unknown) when Nina was older and eventually married him, but I can't find the source anymore. Kay girl 97 (talk) 22:46, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

In other words Konstantinova isn't correct. Her middle name is Kamenova Kay girl 97 (talk) 19:44, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

I changed her middle name because she said Konstantinova is wrong

https://youtube.com/LdJbBWpa9DU She says so at the beginning of the video.

Found a SELF magazine interview to use as a source since YT isn't really reliable. https://www.self.com/story/nina-dobrev-vampire-diaries-whats-next/ Kay girl 97 (talk) 17:11, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

I recently watched her lie detector test where she says konstantinova is not her middle name. She states that Wikipedia is wrong and then proceeded to say that it’s her mothers maiden name. Tabimarie1006 (talk) 16:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Awards update

she recieved the futures award at the ema honors gala last night.

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2020

You should add that she is one of the most talented beautiful actresses out there. Trinjons054 (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and we follow WP:NPOV here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:28, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Nina dobrev’s family

Her father Konstantin is a computer specialist and her mother Michaela is an artist. She has an older brother, Alexander. (Redacted)

SaDolveg (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

This needs to be sourced, and in at least one instance WP:BLPNAMES/WP:MINORS looks to apply. Also, only direct relatives are generally considered to be relevant. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2020

she has also worked as ammara along with katharine and elena in the series, here its only written katherine and elena. Mattboy99 (talk) 09:44, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 10:07, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

And they're completely wrong – that article mentioned the Amara role in at least two places. But it's absolutely not ledeworthy. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:16, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

The full name is wrong

According to this interview - https://youtube/LdJbBWpa9DU?t=47 - that's her mother's maiden name — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vineetavats (talk • contribs) 07:50, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:YOUTUBE – we need a better source than this. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:06, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

backed up with sabrina carpinter in 2018

2804:14D:32A2:85DB:DD3F:3A8B:37AA:67A5 (talk) 22:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:32, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2021

I would like to my a change about her nationality. She is Bulgarian. When both your parents are Bulgarian and you have been born in Bulgarian, that makes you Bulgarian. Just because she has canadian citizenship that doesn't make her canadian. Please be accurate, wikipedia should not be misleading to people MariyaPV (talk) 19:25, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: See the above discussions. Clearly would be a contentious edit and therefore outside the scope of a simple edit request Cannolis (talk) 19:30, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

When you have lived in Canada since you were two years old and hold Canadian citizenship, you are Canadian. You can say she is a Canadian of Bulgarian origin or a Canadian with dual citizenship in Canada and Bulgaria, but Canadian seems to be the more important part of that (at least to me, who is neither Canadian or Bulgarian in any sense). --Khajidha (talk) 18:13, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2021

She moved to Scarborough, Ontario - not Toronto. 2607:FEA8:85A1:2C00:2129:6DE5:9854:E113 (talk) 03:48, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Show a proper source Kay girl 97 (talk) 04:11, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2022

Nina is currently dating Shaun White. 2601:246:5780:10:DC80:681E:2F8D:D2CA (talk) 06:51, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide reliable source. Fade258 (talk) 06:54, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2022

Under "Activism and Charity", there is a missing "i" in the word "in" before the year 2011 where it says, "She hosted the We Day event in Toronto n 2011." 2001:56A:F096:B300:8D9E:82FE:8410:1ECF (talk) 12:01, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:14, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2022 (2)

Nina Dobrev is dating Shaun White as per Shaun White's Wikipedia article (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_White), and these two sources (https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/nina-dobrev-shaun-white-are-dating-laugh-a-lot-together-video/) & (https://people.com/home/nina-dobrev-reveals-she-and-shaun-white-took-months-to-paint-her-home-during-quarantine-makeover/). 2001:56A:F096:B300:8D9E:82FE:8410:1ECF (talk) 12:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2022

Simeonspirov (talk) 18:47, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Nina Dobrev is a Bulgarian actress.(born in Sofia, Bulgaria)

 Not done: See above ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2022

Nina Dobrev is Bulgarian-Canadian. Not only Canadian. 78.130.241.101 (talk) 01:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: This is a contentious edit, or this has already been discussed, so you'll need to discuss first with other editors. If there is an existing discussion on the talk page please contribute to that section. If there is no existing discussion you may explain why this edit should be made in this section, or start a new section on this talk page. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Legal/birth name

What's the source for Dobrev's legal name? To me it looks like original research that's creeped onto the page and somehow remained there for years (especially evident if you look at the hidden script). In this interview she says that "Constantinova" is her mother's maiden name but nowhere does she confirm that her full name is "Nikolina Kamenova Dobreva".--Coconutyou3 (talk) 08:34, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Coconutyou3: - I can't find anything about her legal name either. Sources from 2019 still call her "Nikolina Konstantinova Dobreva" (per Seventeen magazine and Yahoo!).[1][2] But she has denied this in the Vanity Fair interview without confirming what her actual name is.

While it is possible that that her surname would be "Dobreva" and that she'd have a patronymic name in accordance with the naming customs for Bulgaria, it does not seem that reliable, third-party sources actually support this. And she herself appears to have not confirmed the subject. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 21:58, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Her mother says Nina's name is "Nina Kamenova Dobreva" and that "Konstantinova" is from her (Michaela's) name in this interview. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 20:39, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2023

Her birth name is Nikolina not Nina Thatgirldani (talk) 15:45, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done No sourcing for this statement provided. Please find a source and consider resubmitting this request. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi protected edit request

In the intro, where it mentions Sofia, please add Bulgaria next to it. 2600:100C:A211:73E1:443:2156:F877:A53A (talk) 01:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done No. Amaury • 01:37, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2023

Nina has recently stated in an interview that her birth name is actually NICOLINA and she didn't find out until she was 18 yrs old. 2604:3D09:1773:7F00:CBF5:859:E22:498B (talk) 05:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 05:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)