Talk:Nissan Pathfinder

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please include the fuel capacity information of this automobile. THANKS.

European version of Third Generation Pathfinder is available with 2.5 l diesel engine only.

Not listed on the main page, there is also a MK1 Terrano 2.7TD R3M version which is hard to find and has almost no information listed against it, they have the same body as the Pathfinder but for some unknown reason information is very hard to find, if any one knows of this vehicle please can you list some details.

There's no such year as "1986.5". Someone clarify this.

-Production began in late 1986, thus 1986.5.

According to my sources, the Pathfinder/Terrano was first introduced in August, 1986; the "Mark I" was available with 2.7 L Diesel and Turbodiesel engines (85/100 bhp, Type TD27 and TD27T). Tank size for all three generations is 80 L/21 US gal. Also, four entries here and not a single one signed? This is like entering a shop without saying hello. --328cia (talk) 08:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

-Actually the US tank size is closer to a 20 gallon tank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sc88pathy (talk • contribs) 23:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Almost all of the dates are wrong on the facelift section. I'v corrected the one's I know, but most of them are still wrong.

Because of the unibody construction from 96-04, it could be classified as a "mid-size crossover SUV" for 1996-2004, and driver and passenger air bags were added for 1996. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.49.204 (talk) 07:33, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

-I understand that before the Pathfinder was introduced there was a lightly customized version of the Datsun Truck called the "Bushmaster." This was an aftermarket conversion of the Datsun 720 Pickup from pick-up truck to utility vehicle. It was built by Matrix3 and was essentially the predecessor to the US market Pathfinder, just as the Toyota Trekker, an aftermarket conversion of the Toyota Pickup (built by Winnebago) was the forerunner to the 4Runner (No pun intended!) Again, I don't want my legitimate edits to be mistaken for vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevjgav (talk • contribs) 00:40, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Spare Tire?

Which years/models had the spare tire on gate covering the rear hatch? I know later on the spare was mounted underneath the rear end.

--69.207.185.228 (talk) 00:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The external spare tire carrier was available on all models except for the current generation R51, although it was a very rare option for the R50 models. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.249.88.204 (talk) 23:11, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Truck?

The North American first generation Pathfinder came in two different bodies and shared styling and most components with the Nissan Hardbody Truck. Built on a ladder-type frame, the Pathfinder was Nissan's response to the S-10 Blazer, Ford Explorer, the Jeep Cherokee, and other non-domestic SUV's like the Toyota 4Runner, Isuzu Trooper, and the Mitsubishi Montero. WD21 Pathfinders were available in both 2WD and 4WD configurations. In the US from 1986.5 to 1989 Pathfinders came with a two door body. In early 1990 it became a four door in the United States

So, the conclusion is the Nissan Pathfinder is a truck. Looks like a truck, built on a ladder frame, uses truck parts.

There is a debate about the 2010 Times Square truck bombing attempt about whether the Pathfinder is a truck or car.

Someone says that car bomb is a general term. Specifics are also better than generalized inaccuracies. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 18:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

• This has got to be the most roundabout way to protest the use of "car bomb" over "truck bomb" I've ever seen. If you want to debate it, debate it there. Opening an RfC over here for something over there is just silly. If you feel you're being marginalized there, keep in mind the RfC is for outside comment so you'll be trying to get new voices. Doing something like this makes people feel like you're "pulling a fast one" and will predispose them to think negatively of your opinions. Yoshi348 (talk) 20:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
• I have to agree with Yoshi348...if the OP's concern is over the use of "truck bomb" versus "car bomb" in the description of a specific incident, that's got little to do with this article. The relevant place to discuss this distinction is at this open thread at Talk:2010 Times Square truck bombing attempt where it's already been argued that "car bomb" is a general term for an improvised explosive device placed in a car or other vehicle and then detonated (as represented by the car bomb article). — Scientizzle 18:52, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
• This RFC is not even about this page. I think an administrator should invalidate and remove it. --OpenFuture (talk) 14:17, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
• Please assume good faith. This is not about the truck versus car bomb. It is possible that we consider the Pathfinder to be a truck but the news article considers it to be a car. Also note that there are news articles that refer to the bomb as a truck bomb. What I seek is clarification about a truck or car, not the news event. You might see that I write in wikipedia about cars and tires, not terrorist attacks. So car or truck? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Nissan calls it an SUV. As does Edmunds.com (midsize SUV), U.S. News & World Report (Midsize SUV) and Car and Driver (mid-size SUV). That should be sufficient; this article should refer to the Nissan Pathfinder as a sport utility vehicle (which, in the United States, is a subclass of vehicles that falls under the broader light truck classification).
    As for the term car bomb, it's a generalized term for any improvised explosive placed in a vehicle, which needn't be a "car" to be an accurate descriptor. Does this address what you're looking for? This RFC is not very clear... — Scientizzle 22:00, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Neither Suomi - its an SUV/Crossover. The problem is that you only see Car and Truck and do not see the third category SUV. The Nissan America pages list "Car" "SUV/Crossover" and "Truck" and the Pathfinder is in the SUV/Crossover category. In England we separate them into van and truck. A van is enclosed with the driver and carrying sections enclosed in the same bodywork and a truck or lorry has the cab separated from the carrying compartment. (I wont even mention about flatbeds etc lol)

Americans call a lorry a truck, and so the difference between truck and car in the bomb sense is the size of the bomb. A truck bomb is more likely to destroy a building & people and a carbomb is probably only going to take out windows & people. A truck bomb implies that there was enough explosives to fill a transit van or larger so probably 1000KG or more and a carbomb smaller.

I would point out however that the bali bombing was a very small van

The danger is we would need Carbomb, SUVbomb, vanbomb, truckbomb and lorrybomb

It seems to me that it is easier just to call it "a bomb" and perhaps include sizes/weights ?

As for the problem "is the Pathfinder a car or truck" you really need to include SUV and then it fixes itself

"Is the Pathfinder a car, SUV or truck ?" and you will find that it is an SUV - problem solved !!

Chaosdruid (talk) 06:26, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

1996-2000 Pathfinder rear bushing problem

Nissan has issued a TSBS (Technical Service Bulletin) on the issue (NTB908-001, NTB098-012), but has not dealt with it as a recall. It is an expensive fix ($700-1,400) repair due to faulty control arm bushings. A Polyurethane after-market bushing replacement is suggested over the OEM part (since it is faulty).

Their TSB website says: "If a 1996-98 Pathfinder exhibits the following conditions, the cause may be from worn bushing(s) in the rear suspension upper and/or lower links. Excessive play in the rear axle especially during moderate acceleration or deceleration. Vehicle pulling at a constant speed. Excessive sway and rocking motion in the front suspension when coming to a stop. To correct these conditions, use the service procedure on page 2".

Many customers have complained of this issue happening at highway speeds 55 mph+ which causes the vehicle to sway back and forth dangerously. NTSB "complaint" board has numerous owners that have complained about the problem but Nissan has not addressed the design flaw or issued notices or recalls to the owners.

  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.28.206 (talk) 03:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC) 

References

R50 size

"For the 1999½ model year ... the Pathfinder also grew in size, ..."

What size? http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/pathfinder/1998/features-specs.html and http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/pathfinder/2000/features-specs.html list no differences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.91.55 (talk) 15:32, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/pathfinder/1996/features-specs.html Length: 178.3 in. http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/pathfinder/2004/features-specs.html Length: 182.7 in.

The 4.4 inch difference between 1996 and 2004 happened with the 1999.5 body refresh, and was all in the front bumper. So not actually "larger". 70.75.91.55 (talk) 20:41, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

R50 Assembly Locations.

Second generation R50 was never built at Barcelona plant. By that time the European model was the Terrano II (R20). Antonio Garcia, Barcelona, Spain 193.194.132.75 (talk) 15:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I come to say precisely the same thing. The Terrano R50 was never made in Barcelona, Spain. What's more, this model is unknown in Spain since it was never sold here. In Barcelona during those years, the Terrano II (R20, Nissan Mistral in Japan) and its clone the Ford Maverick were manufactured.

Years

What happened with the years on this article? And what happened since the editors do not watch all the editions? Clearly vandalism is shown here and nobody has done a thing to correct. Unfortunately I do not have the information necessary to do the corrections myself.

Alfacevedoa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfacevedoa (talk • contribs) 17:42, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism

Please check nonsense about V16 monster engine. Someone is playing... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.196.190.89 (talk) 07:07, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I've reverted lots of changes from December from two anonymous IPs, one of which is currently blocked. I'm surprised these were missed. Mostly dimensions, years, and designer names were changed, so please check all these to make sure everything is back to normal. --Vossanova ^o< 17:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

YD21 versus WD21

"W" signifies station wagon in the first gen Terrano model code. In Japan, there was also a version which could be registered as a commercial vehicle, called an Estate Van, this type received the leading letter "V". D21 is the same as the Nissan Pickup/Hardbody of the same generation, the actual chassis code of the Terrano is YD21. However, since most Americans refer to it as the WD21 perhaps we will have to use both codes.  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:32, 3 February 2023 (UTC)