Talk:No. 4 Commando
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Mention of French (and other) participation in infobox
editHello,
Earlier, I added the Free French flag icon to the infobox which was reverted by Jim Sweeney on the grounds that the French participation was "not justifiable". I believe that the French participation is easily important enough to merit its inclusion in the infobox in some form. I believe that the current inclusion of Britain alone is actually misleading in this context. Partly, the Free French element has a fairly high profile after its inclusion in films (like The Longest Day) and in French popular culture, but also that No. 4 Commando is much more important (as a whole) to the history of France in WWII than it is to the history of Britain in the same conflict...Brigade Piron (talk) 15:34, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- No.4 Commando was a British Army formation, which had two French troops attached for a short time. The info box is an overview to add a French flag gives undue weight. The French troops were rightly part of No. 10 (Inter Allied) Commando. Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:08, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- I see your concern, but I'm afraid I still disagree. As a compromise, how about introducing a sub-heading within the infobox section:
- I see your concern, but I'm afraid I still disagree. As a compromise, how about introducing a sub-heading within the infobox section:
United Kingdom
also: [or words to that effect]
Free French
- I still do consider it worth including, even if as you say, it is only a small part of the total unit. It's not that I think it is so important as to be essential to the infobox, just some (like me when I approached this article) could be mislead that it was only-ever a British unit by looking at the infobox...Brigade Piron (talk) 09:06, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- Alternatively, consider adding "Free French" (text only) below "British Army" in the allegiance section? Brigade Piron (talk) 09:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- No because it only ever was a British Army unit. The French troops were only attached not assigned. It also had US Rangers attached for Dieppe, but you would not ask to add US Army. Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:10, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- I still do consider it worth including, even if as you say, it is only a small part of the total unit. It's not that I think it is so important as to be essential to the infobox, just some (like me when I approached this article) could be mislead that it was only-ever a British unit by looking at the infobox...Brigade Piron (talk) 09:06, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Accuracy of Last Paragraph
editThe last paragraph doesn't seem to jive from my understanding. The 'captured its objectives' seems to refer to the gun battery and casino in Ouisterham (and other strong points). To march from this point inland to Bénouville is 3 to 3.5 miles according to GoogleMaps but the paragraph says it was 6mi .... where did the other 3 miles go? Did they get blown away in the bombing of Caen soon after? The march inland to the Orne bridges was not uneventful -- snipers, or even just one sniper, is an event. Arriving in Bénouville was 'eventful', crossing the bridges was 'eventful' (they lost about 12 guys to snipers crossing one of the bridges). No mention of Millin piping or Lovat connecting with the Airborne officers (skipped) ... but instead there is comment about supply gliders arriving somewhere to their rear. There are things here that don't seem accurate. ManOnPipes (talk) 04:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)