Talk:Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (march)
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edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 09:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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- ... that Nobles of the Mystic Shrine was first conducted with a band of around 6,200 members, the largest band John Philip Sousa (pictured) ever conducted? Source: United States Marine Band
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Created by Kavyansh.Singh (talk). Self-nominated at 20:49, 13 January 2022 (UTC).
- Hiya. This is obviously new and long enough, and the text fits with policy (no plagiarism, properly written, very correctly attributed); the hook is verified AGF and interesting, as well as properly written. QPQ done, LoC image is properly licensed and free to use, audio sample is in the public domain. I am however concerned about the Ladd source, which is a Masters' thesis, and, per WP:RS, must only be used under exceptional circumstances which I cannot really determine are met here (I'm agnostic on the issue, mind you, but please state your case as to why we can use it here). Dahn (talk) 22:37, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Dahn – Hi! Thanks for you diligent review, and efforts to check sources. I know that Masters' thesis is generally not considers so reliable, but the way I cite it in the article is not much of an issue. Published by and available from the Kansas State University, it is used mostly as a primary source to quote Ladd in the "Composition and analysis" sub-section. Other instances include citing it for instrumentation and structure. Moreover, I don't think sourcing requirement of DYK is so strict that a source like that would be outright rejected. On another note, it is the most comprehensive source about the topic I could fine, so I want to keep it. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- Pretty much satisfied with that rationale. DYK is good to go! Dahn (talk) 11:12, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Dahn – Hi! Thanks for you diligent review, and efforts to check sources. I know that Masters' thesis is generally not considers so reliable, but the way I cite it in the article is not much of an issue. Published by and available from the Kansas State University, it is used mostly as a primary source to quote Ladd in the "Composition and analysis" sub-section. Other instances include citing it for instrumentation and structure. Moreover, I don't think sourcing requirement of DYK is so strict that a source like that would be outright rejected. On another note, it is the most comprehensive source about the topic I could fine, so I want to keep it. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Unexpectedlydian (talk · contribs) 18:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm happy to start reviewing this article using the table below. Comments to follow soon! Unexpectedlydian♯4talk‽ 18:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Kavyansh, thank you for all your work on this article. I very much enjoyed reading it! Only a few minor comments in the table below. Do let me know if you have any questions or if I've misunderstood anything. Many thanks Unexpectedlydian♯4talk‽ 16:14, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, @Unexpectedlydian. I have addressed the concerns. Don't know whether it is a coincident or not, but List of marches by John Philip Sousa is today's featured list! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Great work, happy to promote to GA now. And congratulations on the featured list, very impressive! Thank you for your dedication to Sousa and related topics Unexpectedlydian♯4talk‽ 19:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, @Unexpectedlydian. I have addressed the concerns. Don't know whether it is a coincident or not, but List of marches by John Philip Sousa is today's featured list! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. |
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Instrumentation
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. |
Lead sections
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Words to watch
Fiction
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2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). |
Source check American National Biography
White, 2009
Ladd, 2014
Birley, 2006
United States Marine Band
Bierley, 1984
Dugan, 2018
United States Marine Band, 2020
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2c. it contains no original research. |
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. |
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3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. |
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. |
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6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. |
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. |
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7. Overall assessment. |