Talk:Noe Valley public toilet

Requested move 5 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. No consensus at this time; editors supporting consider the title more recognizable, editors opposing consider it less precise and less descriptive. The article may also be taken to AfD at any time, in line with comments by [[User:CityUrbanism|]] and [[User:Festucalex|]]. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 23:21, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

---

Noe Valley public toilet → ? – "Noe Valley public toilet" has almost no use in sources. Don't know what it should be moved to as most sources seem to refer to it with some variation of "1.7 million dollar toilet" but I'm not sure how suitable that is. BhamBoi (talk) 20:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC) BhamBoi (talk) 20:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. echidnaLives - talk - edits 06:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose, unless someone thinks of something better, or reliable sources have a better description than a generic "$1.7 million toilet", this seems like a good WP:PRECISE, WP:NDESC compromise. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:50, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

  But there is WP:COMMONNAME: "noe valley public toilet" is not really used in sources. See the source list above and in the article, and you'll notice they mostly refer to it with some variation of the pricetag. But I don't care too strongly on this RM. BhamBoi (talk) 17:21, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

  Also, think about what name someone would want to look for more information about this on after seeing it on the news. It'd be the name commonly associated with it. Probably not this BhamBoi (talk) 17:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

• Support "1.7 million dollar public toilet" or something similar on recognizability grounds. The toilet is mainly notable for its specific price tag of $1.7 million, and a more recognizable title should get that across. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
• Unsure but I have created the redir from 1.7 million dollar public toilet as I think it is a more likely search term. Which should be the article name I can argue both ways, but we should have a redir from the other IMO. Andrewa (talk) 09:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose, current title is descriptive and there does not appear to be an established common name. Dekimasuよ! 07:00, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting to see if we can get more participation to discuss possible new name. echidnaLives - talk - edits 06:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Nominate to WP:AfD. I genuinely can't see why a 3x5 meter non-existent toilet is notable. The $1.7m factoid can go in the San Francisco Recreation & Parks Department article. 〜Festucalex • talk • contribs 08:04, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
• Support "1.7 million dollar public restroom" per recognizability, descriptive titles, and ENGVAR (we don't call these "public toilets" in American English). Red Slash 21:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

• Really? The sources at the top of this page use a mix of "public bathroom" and "public toilet". Some using the term "toilet" are U.S. based, including the first three, CBS News, NBC and San Francisco Chronicle. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:28, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

  Personally, in my PNW dialect, I would default to public bathroom BhamBoi (talk) 17:42, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

  But that would be a full-fledged bathroom, if it's just basically a stall I think I'd go with toilet. BhamBoi (talk) 17:43, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

• Nominate to WP:AfD per User:Festucalex – CityUrbanism 🗩 🖉 21:56, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Updates

I don't know if this subject merits its own article, but I did some updates. The original $1.7 million project will not be happening, and a cheaper option has been approved. EponineBunnyKickQueen (talk) 18:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)