Talk:Non-Muslim interactants with Muslims during Muhammad's era

Article Name

We need to come up with something better and more appropriate than the current name. Any suggestions? Zunaid 11:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I thought of three just from browsing around:

• List of notable non-Muslims who interacted with Muslims during Muhammad's era
• List of notable non-Muslims who had contact with the Sahaba
• List of non-Muslims mentioned in hadith

The current title is definitely crap though. NicM 13:24, 20 December 2005 (UTC).

I lean towards the first one, although "interacted" seems a bit weak. The word notable is redundant. Zunaid 07:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, of course, I am silly... "List of non-Muslims" does not imply it is exhaustive :-). I'm not so sure about "with Muslims", it seems the list is mainly at present specific to Mohammad and his followers. What about "met" or "encountered" or "dealt with" instead of interacted? NicM 08:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC).

It's a tricky one. Maybe a combination of the first two. The more I think about it, the more it seems this list will have a long and unwieldy title. I'm starting to lean towards categorization instead. Zunaid 08:29, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Suggestions for expansion

More detail on the significance of these people on the development of Islam, the context etc.

A reference to Interfaith relations perhaps?

Jackiespeel 18:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

This is a list page, so I would say in generally, no, the information should be short and sweet. See Islam and the individual's own pages for detail. NicM 18:36, 20 December 2005 (UTC).

Sources

Sources are needed for assertions such as "Muslim historians have kept detailed lists of people who interacted with Muslims during Muhammad's era." Which historians, and where were their lists published, and does this article use those lists as references? Esquizombi 16:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Munzir ibn Sawa Al Tamimi

Munzir ibn Sawa Al Tamimi (ruler of Bahrain) cannot be put into this list, because he embraced Islam after the Prophet sent Al-Ala'a Al-Hadrami with the message of Islam. (And that's how Bahrain became a Muslim country). I've read it in the history book, as well as here.

rename

possibly Non-Muslim interactants with Sahabas --Striver 00:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

China

I had added the envoy to China but now I'm not so sure because this is named as Non-Muslim interactants with Muslims during Muhammad's Era but the envoy to China was in Uthman's era.

Remove unreferenced text from article

Per WP:V I removed a large body of unreferenced text from the article and placed it below. I used a segment from the top of Sahaba to round out the introduction.

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Muslim historians have kept detailed lists of people who interacted with Muslims during Muhammad's era, they are called the Sahaba. These lists usually consist of people who accomplished something notable in the view of Muslims, or who interacted with someone that did so. For example there is a list of every single Muslim who died during the first Muslim war for independence, the battle of Badr.

At the same time, they also kept a similarly detailed list of notable non-Muslim interactants with Muslims during Muhammad's era, both friend and enemies. This includes for example the notable people from the city of Mecca that went to war with Muslims, and also non-Muslims from other parts of the Arabian peninsula. It also includes non-Muslim non-Arabs, for example Romans that fought with Muslims or the Ethiopians who helped the Muslims that emigrated there.

Just as the Muslim casualties of the battle of Badr are accounted for, so are many prominent non-Muslims that died during that and other battles.

This is a list of notable non-Muslims that had contact with the Sahaba, arranged by country or place of origin.

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