Talk:Non-pharmacological intervention

Hypertension section

@TompaDompa: your section may be better moved into the Hypertension article, with reference to Non-pharmaceutical intervention. If someone add her/his support for this move and do lead it, it's all fine :). We can then add into NPI a one-liner reference here about hypertension being mainly countered by NPI. Yug (talk) 09:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Merge somehow??

(@WhatamIdoing:) As someone who has worked in the field of epidemiology, I'm not sure I understand the distinction made in the header:

This article is about the general concept. For the specific use of the term in epidemiology, see Non-pharmaceutical intervention (epidemiology).

(cf Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Archive 144#Non-pharmaceutical intervention)

86.186.155.255 (talk) 10:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Pinging doesn't work if you don't sign your comment with the same edit. Anyway, pinging WhatamIdoing. TompaDompa (talk) 22:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

AFAICT we've decided to have one article about all NPIs, and a separate article about NPIs that are relevant for COVID-19. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:24, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah yes, thank you WhatamIdoing. Doh! I can sort of see that now after scolling through Non-pharmaceutical intervention (epidemiology). Maybe renaming the dab parenthesis on that page could provide a quick fix there at least? 86.186.155.146 (talk) 08:42, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

That might help. Expanding this article to have a satisfactory overview would also help. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:33, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Hum, WhatamIdoing (and TompaDompa), providing a satisfactory overview that's appropriately sourced doesn't seem to me (at least) an altogether straightforward task. My impression is that the NPI term is largely deployed as a self-explanatory catch-all label/descriptor that can conveniently encompass any non-drug-based intervention (irrespective of effectiveness), ranging from aromatherapy or sensory gardens through engineering tweaks (eg for prevention of work-related back pain) to legislative change (eg smoking bans). In fact, while the Dictionary of Epidemiology often refers to "non-pharmacological interventions" it seems to feel that the term is too self-explanatory to merit a separate definition or explanation [1].

Since I'm not familiar with any suitable sourcing specifically focused on NPI as a separate concept, I've taken a rapid look at GoogleBooks where a couple of candidates popped up: ISBN 9783030609719 appears to present the viewpoint (i.e. pov) of a single author; ISBN 9781420088021 focuses on particular methodological aspects of the evaluation of non-pharmacological treatments.

86.186.155.146 (talk) 18:11, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Candidate redirects

@WhatamIdoing:, @TompaDompa: In addition to [[Non-pharamacological intervention]] [oops!] (possibly also Nonpharamacological intervention etc[??]), I feel Non-pharmacological treatment could potentially be an appropriate and useful redirect here. (I don't think ip contributors are able to add redirects :) 86.186.155.149 (talk) 13:59, 20 August 2021 (UTC) 86.186.94.183 (talk) 21:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Non-pharmacological intervention already redirects here. I created the redirect non-pharmacological treatment. TompaDompa (talk) 14:52, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah, thank you TompaDompa (I see now I made a silly "ama" typo, which I then rapidly copied and pasted).

Another related question (also @WhatamIdoing:) regards the page name (currently "Non-pharmaceutical...") Outside literature related to the COVID-19 pandemic, "Non-pharmacological intervention" is the generally received term (see GoogleScholar: [2] versus [3]). So I think the appropriate name for the present page could be Non-pharmacological intervention, whereas Non-pharmaceutical intervention (epidemiology) might conceivably[?] be renamed something like Non-pharmaceutical intervention (COVID-19 epidemic). Any thoughts? 86.161.190.70 (talk) 18:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

I have no firm opinions on "pharmaceutical" vs. "pharmacological". I don't think it would be appropriate to rename the other article to be solely about the COVID-19 pandemic; the main topic is improving health by means other than medications, and preventing the spread of infectious diseases is a sub-topic of that, and combatting the COVID-19 pandemic is a sub-topic of that. The reason we have two articles in the first place is that this topic has received widespread attention in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic for the last year and a half or so, even though that context is really only a sub-topic of a sub-topic, and the article was originally created and later expanded reflecting that widespread attention of combatting the COVID-19 pandemic. I then split the article in order not to have the main topic be buried by a bunch of text about the sub-topic. TompaDompa (talk) 05:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)