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Novels
editCan someone list the novels she wrote?
First marriage
editThere appears to be a factual problem. In Ms. Ephron's page it says her marriage to her first husband lasted nine years. When you visit the first husband's wikipedia entry it says the first marriage lasted six years. At least one of them is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.183.159.206 (talk) 20:22, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Directing/writing credits
editThe film "Lucky Numbers" is listed as being both directed and written by Nora Ephron, but she actually only directed it.
Directed "You've Got Mail" (1998), starring Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks and Greg Kinnear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.255.104 (talk) 04:48, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Ugly Betty reference
editWasnt she mention by Wilhelmina Slater on Ugly Betty? I seem to remember her name popping up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.27.209 (talk) 18:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Dates
editWhat I would like to know is, how can she have been pregnant with her son Max in 1980 when he was actually born in 1979, as his Wiki page states?! Katie1971 ( Let's talk!! ) 06:29, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- This article has since been corrected by another editor. – OhioStandard (talk) 16:08, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Marital status
edit"Ephron was married for more than 20 years to screenwriter Nicholas Pileggi and lived in New York City." The table at right suggests that she's still married, so the phrasing should be "has been married." I won't make the edit because I haven't seen the reference. Danchall (talk) 22:47, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- The Washington, DC newspaper, The Examiner says she married Nicholas Pileggio in 1989 and lived with him until her death.[1] Geraldshields11 (talk) 12:37, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Misspelling
edit"I Feel Bad Abut My Neck: And Other Reflections on Being a Woman" should be changed to "I Feel Bad About My Neck: And Other Reflections on Being a Woman"
The CD book I am holding says "I Feel Bad about My Neck and other Thoughts on Being a Woman."
Judaism as ethnicity
editI deleted the infobox line noting Nora's "ethnicity" as "Jewish." The premise of this notion is false. Judaism, as whole, is not an ethicity. Jews, in total, do not comprise one ethnic group. Rather, Judaism is a religion, whose adherents fall into a number of distinct ethnic groups. The largest of these are Ashkenazic (German or Eastern European), Sephardic (Spain and Portugal), Mizrahim (Middle Eastern, North African), but many smaller subgroups exist, including Indian Jews (Bene Israel), Romaniotes (Greece), Italian and Chinese Jews and many, many others from all corners of the globe. The customs of these groups are often different; so are the languages. But, most improtantly, the geneologies are different (different enough that one would term them different ethnicities). So Nora's ethnicity may be Ashkenazic (I don't know), but it is not "Jewish." --14:01, 27 June 2012 User:Ask123
- She was definitely Ashkenazi. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:17, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- This isn't really the place to debate the matter, but in the United States "Jewish-American" effectively functions as an ethnic identity on the same level as "Mexican-American", "Italian-American" etc. There are many ethnic Jews who would not dream of disavowing their ethnic Jewish identity, even though they are religiously far from devout (or even atheist). The Ashkenazi vs. Sephardi issue is interesting for experts, but not so relevant for a brief identification in an article of this type (since only a small minority of U.S. Jews are Sephardis, etc.)... AnonMoos (talk) 23:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Jews are defined as an ethnic group and an ethnicity primary to any such wishful-thinkers' invention as "religion" which is chiefly the result of the misfortunate unscholarly blending of jewish faith with jews as the ethnonational distinction, the latter never having been bound to the religious dialectic subjugation at the academy or elsewhere. My guess is that the decision to sever Ephron posthumously from her ethnicity goes part with the tension between new-talk anti-zionist currents attempting to deny the perception of a jewish people and those identifying this one people as anthropologically equal to any other ethnos regardless of their political observation, virtually like most American jews do. Kindly restore the line specifying this article's subject's ethnicity. 94.230.84.157 (talk) 05:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- NNDB also has an Infobox for Nora Ephron. It reads "Religion: Jewish".[1] Our Infobox should follow that example. Bus stop (talk) 15:53, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Wall Street Journal article contradicts news of her death
editIt's written that she's ill, according to a representative - http://online.wsj.com/article/APe54c2e053b974492b904d2eb097682d8.html --99.186.110.193 (talk) 19:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Reaction to death
editmany notable people have reacted to her death by commenting on her wit. This is not something to be expected for everyone who dies--we didn't hear it for Amy Winehouse and we won't hear it for GWBush. Removing it as the usual pap is a matter of personal taste, not faithfulness to the sources.
"her personal wit" , Meryl Streep.
, "brilliant." , Billy Crystal.
, " All wisdom, wit" , Meg Ryan.
, "wisdom and wit mixed with love for us and love for life." , Tom Hanks on behalf of himself and wife Rita Wilson.
, " A writer, director, wife, mother, chef, wit" , Carrie Fisher.
, "R.I.P Nora Ephron. A witty, charming, lovely person." , Actor, writer, director Albert Brooks via Twitter.
, "RIP Nora Ephron brilliant gracious and FUNNY" , Filmmaker Ron Howard via Twitter.
Zac
editSo is this Zac Efron's mom or his grandma? It desn't say anywhere in the article: it is not the kind of thing to be missed out on Wikipedia! 180.93.193.90 (talk) 09:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- I guess you're missing a very obvious fact that Efron is not the same as Ephron, much less the easily readable info concerning Zac's parents on his own article. --99.186.110.193 (talk) 10:58, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Since name spellings were not finite, the question of their possible relation isn't a bad one. There's a large "Efron" family site. Zac Efron descends from a Leibel Efron, born around 1870 and living in the town of Bocki. Nora Ephron's ancestry can evidently be traced back to an Israel Efron, born around 1750. See? The last names match. It's not so impossible that Zac Efron is descended from Israel Efron as well (or at least related to him) if you go back far enough. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Never mentioned it being impossible but thanks for that lesson in armchair genealogy. --99.186.110.193 (talk) 05:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- Since name spellings were not finite, the question of their possible relation isn't a bad one. There's a large "Efron" family site. Zac Efron descends from a Leibel Efron, born around 1870 and living in the town of Bocki. Nora Ephron's ancestry can evidently be traced back to an Israel Efron, born around 1750. See? The last names match. It's not so impossible that Zac Efron is descended from Israel Efron as well (or at least related to him) if you go back far enough. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Copypaste issues
editI added a hatnote {{copypaste|section|url=http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/eph0bio-1|date=June 2012}}
to the section Career, since the section was an almost word-by-word copy of the text at www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/eph0bio-1. This was replaced by the text: This section incorporates text from this source, which is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 3.0.
However, as I understand it, CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 is not compatible with the CC-BY-SA licence, so the copypaste problem remains. --Lambiam 11:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- I do not know what the status is, on this. I did notice that, at http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/pagegen/usage.html it says (in part):
If you discover edited or modified versions of Academy of Achievement Podcasts and Interviews distributed online or used elsewhere, be aware that this is illegal and please inform us. For questions or comments, e-mail us at: editor_1@achievement.org
- Just "FYI"... --Mike Schwartz (talk) 21:48, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
I've now replaced this text with an old version, as you are correct that license is incompatible with Wikipedia. Dpmuk (talk) 18:21, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Communist
editShe's included under the category "American communists" with no evidence in the article to support that. Are there any sources to show that she was a communist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.47.120 (talk) 18:37, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Better picture
editplease Lingust (talk) 01:51, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
References
editHello, I plan to add the following references to this page in regards to Ephron's career as a filmmaker.
Nora Ephron
Benson-allott, Caetlin. “Mastering the Art of Feminist Mentorship.” Gastronomica, vol. 10, no. 2, 2010, pp. 83–85. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/10.1525/gfc.2010.10.2.83.
Ephron, Nora. The Last Interview : And Other Conversations. Brooklyn ; London: Melville House, 2015. Print. Last Interview Ser.. (uri) Http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2012092084 (uri) Http://viaf.org/viaf/sourceID/LC%7Cno2012092084.
Keller, George. “Nora Ephron: Tattling on Academe.” Change, vol. 10, no. 4, 1978, pp. 38–41. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/40177053.
Kimmel, Daniel M. I'll Have What She's Having : Behind the Scenes of the Great Romantic Comedies. Chicago: Ivan R. Dee, 2008. Print.
Dance, Liz. Nora Ephron : Everything Is Copy. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland, 2015. Print.