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Talk:Norhill, Houston

Latest comment: 4 years ago by WhisperToMe in topic So-called Norhill ...
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Former good article nomineeNorhill, Houston was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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January 8, 2011Good article nomineeNot listed

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Latest comment: 13 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion
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Reviewer: The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 00:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

I will review this article. My review will be posted shortly. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 00:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to quick fail   this article. The following issues must be addressed before another Good article nomination is attempted:

  1. For the most part, this article lacks reliable sources. There are a couple sources, but more sources are needed before this article can pass.
  2. This article is almost an orphan, as there are few wikilinks. There should be more wikilinks in this article; just remember not to overlink.
  3. This article also lacks a suitable image. While images are not required, they are strongly recommended.
  4. This article is not broad in coverage; very little information is provided regarding the neighborhood.
  5. This article could use a copy edit for grammar.

Once these issues have been addressed, feel free to renominate this article. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 01:01, 8 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Since both the GA nominator and the primary contributor of the article are new users, I just wanted to point out the good article criteria. I know they are linked to from the template on the talkpage, but you may not have noticed the link. These are the criteria that we use to assess articles as "good articles". You are on the right track with references, but it would help if you were using a wider variety, as you seem to only be using three at the moment. I can't see any place in particular that is missing sources though. The main thing for GA reviews is to make sure that any statements that anyone is likely to question has a citation, as well as statistics or direct quotes.

The main issue with this article at the moment is that it needs some more content. See if you can find out information of demographics of the neighbourhood, or the transport links, or educational facilities for example. Another article on a US city neighbourhood that you could compare to is Georgetown (Washington, D.C.). That's not a "Good Article" yet either, but it may give you some ideas. It also needs a more extensive lead section that summarises the rest of the article. When some more content has been added, you might want to submit the article for a peer review, which is a bit more informal than a GA review, but might yield some more detailed suggestions. Hope this helps.--BelovedFreak 01:41, 8 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Block book maps

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Latest comment: 5 years ago4 comments1 person in discussion

I'll archive these later. For now here's a link to show where some images of the block book maps are:

http://books.tax.hctx.net/v062/AE1997_62_0090.jpg is for North Norhill WhisperToMe (talk) 13:13, 24 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Norhill Addition by block:

WhisperToMe (talk) 01:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

North Norhill:

WhisperToMe (talk) 02:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

East Norhill

WhisperToMe (talk) 11:22, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

So-called Norhill ...

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Latest comment: 4 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

I grew up in this area / so-called neighborhood, within the Heights. That is correct ... WITHIN the Heights. It was NEVER in my lifetime called "Norhill" by the 1960's (and I was born on Norhill St) In fact, although I attended Eugene Field, and played many days at Hogg Jr High and Protor Plaza park, in my entire life I never heard of this area referred to as "Norhill", except for Norhill Little League, perhaps. By the 60's for certain, everyone called and considered this area a part of "The Heights". It wasn't until after 1990 or so that realtors and marketing people resurrected the name "Norhill". This is all common knowledge to those who lived and grew up in this part of Houston. Reagan High School was recently renamed Heights High School, btw. If this article is to be believe, it would also be part of "Norhill". 98.194.39.86 (talk) 18:18, 18 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for commenting! One thing to note is that the Houston Heights proper has defined boundaries seen here from the Harris County block book system. Heights High School (ex-Reagan) occupies at least two blocks in Heights proper: Block 166 and Block 167 with the overall position seen here. The eastern boundary of the Heights proper is between Oxford Street and Beverly Street (Studewood Street is east of that line, so stuff on Studewood is not in the Heights proper). The Norhill area was developed separately: I am posting block book maps from that above.
There is a school in Norhill: James S. Hogg Middle School (block marked here) at 1100 Merrill Street, Houston, TX 77009
Anyway, as a notice: the verifiability policy (Wikipedia:V) states: " Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors." Based on this, in order for me to write in the Wikipedia article that the area is popularly seen as being in the Heights (meaning in the minds of its area residents) such comments would need to be in a published newspaper article, journal article, magazine article, etc.
WhisperToMe (talk) 00:56, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
I grew up in the Heights. My best friend and my grandmother both lived on Norhill, as did I. Street. It was never a neighborhood, and no one ever called it that. It was just the Heights. I'll provide citations to back up these "claims". It's not going to be difficult seeing that I was born and raised on 14th and Norhill St myself. 73.6.96.168 (talk) 11:57, 11 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
@73.6.96.168: I'm happy to read any published sources you find which explicitly say "People in Norhill mainly say they're from the Heights". Remember self-published sources like vanity press books, internet forums, etc. do not count. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:01, 1 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
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