Talk:Norman Biggs/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Nikki♥311 02:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I will be reviewing this article. First, make sure you add {{subst:GAN|subtopic=name of the subsection on this page where the article is listed}} to the talk page of an article when you nominate it. I completed this step for you for this article. Here is a list of initial suggestions to improve the article:

• "On returning to Cardiff he joined his father's business." What was it? Why is this important?
  • We don't know what the business was, but the Dictionary of Welsh Biography the largest biography on Biggs outside Wikipedia included it in their write up. It can be seen as important as rugby union at the time was an amateur sport, and all players required employment outside the game. This may therefore be a reason to why he joined Cardiff rather than another club. FruitMonkey (talk) 08:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Found it, he was a brewer.FruitMonkey (talk) 12:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)  Done

    And have now found his parents' names and their address. FruitMonkey (talk) 15:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

• References go directly behind punctuation.
  •  Done
• Endashes go between scores and between date ranges. For example, they lost 4–3. See MOS:DASH.
  • I think I've found and replaced the offending Emdash in the infobox. FruitMonkey (talk) 19:53, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
• "his first cap" - this needs to be explained or wikilinked
  • wikilinked  Done
• "he New Zealanders were the first touring team from the Southern Hemisphere and brought with them a fearsome reputation as hard tacklers." source?
  • Have switched sentence to over-vigorous play, and added online cite.  Done
• "the Swansea crowd were also hostile towards their own team, as they felt the Swansea backs should have been selected instead." - needs a source that this was the reason for their hostility
  •  Done
• "Biggs was picked out by the crowd as one of those players unworthy of his place and was heckled." - why?
  • Added a 'Cardiff new cap' to explain the reson for the crowds hostility.  Done
• "appeared to regain his confidence and form on the pitch at the Cardiff Arms Park." - appeared? according to whom?
  • Refined line to be less opinionated  Done
• "Biggs scored a "sparkling try"." - a quote needs a ref
  • cite given  Done
• "Under the captaincy of Welsh rugby superstar Arthur Gould" - WP:PEACOCK
  • Removed offending term.  Done
• "the first time the Irish had won on Welsh soil" - source?
  • cite given  Done
• "lifting the Triple Crown for the first time in the country's history" - source?
  • offline cite given  Done
• "Biggs was central to all three games" - according to whom?
  • Adressed by tweaking the sentence and added a quote to his importance in the Scotland game.  Done FruitMonkey (talk) 17:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
• "the brothers missing each other by just one match" - ref?
  •  Done FruitMonkey (talk) 18:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
• The headers at the bottom should be in the following order: References, Bibliography, External links. See WP:FOOTERS.
  •  Done
• Several of the footnotes need formatting or completion. Most are missing authors.
  • Uniformal style for all books and web pages, dates set to British standard. All authors where available are present, due to the nature of many of the articles (ie Victorian or from the London Gazette) authors not provided.  Done FruitMonkey (talk) 17:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll give seven days for improvement. Thanks. Nikki♥311 02:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Let me know when you are ready for me to look back through the article. Nikki♥311 04:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Got your note. I should have the time to give a thorough look-through in the next day or two. Nikki♥311 03:42, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for being patient with me. I've looked through the article and believe that it meets all GA criteria now. I've passed the article. However, I liked the note about rugby players needing jobs outside the sport, so consider adding it to the article if a proper source can be found. (It puts his return to his father's business in context). Anyway, great work! Nikki♥311 22:23, 14 September 2010 (UTC)