Talk:Norman Schwarzkopf Jr./GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Majormax (talk · contribs) 10:20, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

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This is a beautifully written article and was a pleasure to read.

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   Perhaps take out the redlined 'Advanced Infantry School' in section 2

   Fixed. —Ed!^(talk) 11:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

   The quote in section 3 "Was is a profanity" should probably read "war"

   Fixed. —Ed!^(talk) 11:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

   Section 4 In a second role, Schwarzkopf he served as the

   Fixed. —Ed!^(talk) 11:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

   Section 4.1 to prepare to respond to what he thought was a "more realistic scenario

   Fixed. —Ed!^(talk) 11:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

   Section 5.1 spelling conduicting

   Section 5.1 On 29 December 1990, he received a warning order .. seems to come out of nowhere, some of the behind the scenes planning and politics might be nice to add here. This reads out of sequence.

   Section 5.2 para 1 "just about exactly as we had intended it to go. / close quote

   Section 5.1 para 1 type ultimadeum

   Section 7 para 3 to negative public perception of the was in the United States.

   Section 8 source Crusade: The Untold Story of the Persian Gulf War

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   Some links to the references follow

   Archer, William R. (2000)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=oSYJDwR2S7AC

   Atkinson, Rick (1994)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=TVVwADcYOcgC

   Cohen, Roger; Gatti, Claudio (1991)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=4H7WAAAAMAAJ

   Connelly, Owen (2002)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=KWu4ikq73VMC

   Grossman, Mark (2007)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=QSJoaugn2h8C

   McNeese, Tim (2003)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=l6uNo-KP_mAC

   Moore, Harold G. (1992)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=RrVV-b_2enkC

   Schwartz, Richard A. (2006)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=KJUsQPyY9Q0C

   Smith, E. W. (2010)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=LyBN758OMhMC

   Tucker, Spencer (2009)

   http://books.google.com.au/books?id=wEkFzIWjdn4C

1. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

3. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   The article is still being actively developed with many changes in the past 24 hours, but there is no ongoing edit war or content dispute.

4. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

5. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   On hold while I am trying to find URL's for some of the sources. Otherwise very hard to fault.AWHS (talk) 10:20, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

   Thanks for looking it over! —Ed!^(talk) 11:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Promotion to Brigidier General

The article says that Schwartzkopf was promoted to Brigidier General while in Hawaii, but I was there when he announced in a First Brigade formation that he was going to be promoted to BG, and he was still commander of the 1st Bde of 9th Inf Div. In his autobiography he states that the promotion ceremony occured at Ft. Lewis just after he was relieved of command of 1st Bde. I'm modifying the article accordingly. Cyberherbalist (talk) 07:03, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

As an aside, I don't believe we can source anything to his bio directly, since it is a primary source. —Ed!^(talk) 16:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Ed, please read Primary source (and Secondary and Tertiary as well). Depending upon the way you slice it, Schwarzkopf's bio is either a secondary or tertiary source, and it should be extensively used here to verify facts, if nothing more. The promotion ceremony date easily counts - it's uncontroversial. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:45, 21 April 2013 (UTC)