Talk:Northern Line (Sydney)

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Chiefmanzzz in topic Missing Burwood Station

Stopping patterns

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Does anyone else think that the stopping pattern info on all these CityRail line pages looks too directory like and un-encyclopedic? Its just a regirgitation from the Cityrail timetable. It's very transient and liable to change I can't imagine anyone finding it constructive. Will it all be ammended with the next timetable re-write?Quaidy 10:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I agree. While some have suggested that the stopping patterns show the relative importance of the stations, I think this could be better achieved in the text of the article. Joestella 12:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Quaidy, it's not just about what you think. It is not "directory-like" or "unencyclopedic" - they are your own opinion, and those terms are yet to be defined by anyone on here - I have asked people to provide a rationale for that being as such, and no one has answered that. The next timetable update will include the Epping to Chatswood Line, which will completely change the makeup of the line - but the line's patterns haven't changed for some years now, apart from the fact that some peak hour trains used to stop at Meadowbank instead of West Ryde. I'm happy to change it though to something more resembling the Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra railway line, Sydney article, which has opening dates and distance sections instead of the stopping pattern buttons - although it should be noted that when I took them out of that article people asked for them to be replaced... I can't win. How about we stop whinging and get on with improving the article... JROBBO 07:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
I know its just what I think- thats why it's on the discussion page! I just think the info would read better in text rather than a large table. Opinions are still allowed last time I checked.Quaidy 10:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Stations table

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After being accused of being a vandal, I thought I'd raise this here. I think that the large station table on this and other Cityrail pages is too big and directory like for an encyclopaedia page. Would anyone read it? It seems a rehash of information that could easily be found on the official Cityrail website. Thoughts (with civility please)? Endarrt 01:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

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I noticed some links to this article are styled red and bold. I assume it's because CityRail colours this line red on maps; however, it's confusing as they look like Wiki Redlinks. I'd like them set back to the default link colour for clarity. Your thoughts? --Breno talk 00:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

M sets

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I caught a M set train the other day on the Northern line Does this type of train need to be added to the fleet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiefmanzzz (talkcontribs) 12:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)Reply


Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page not moved: no concensus in over 5 weeks. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)Reply


Northern railway line, SydneyNorthern Line (Sydney) — According to the article, the name is "Northern Line".  — Amakuru (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Note on this move request

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The request above was refactored by User:Amakuru as a request affecting all the CityRail lines rather than just this one, as it wouldn't be logical to create an inconsistency even if the original request was held to be valid. The original move request was:

Northern railway line, SydneyNorthern Line (Sydney) — According to the article, the name is "Northern Line" 184.144.166.85 (talk) 02:12, 22 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

The first two oppose votes below (User:MrHarper and User:Crusoe8181) were made before I refactored it.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:03, 22 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Survey

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Oppose. Its a railway line, and it's in Sydney, so the change seems unnecessary. All of the other lines in Sydney are named as per this convention. MrHarper (talk) 03:36, 22 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. In Australia, locality names have an (almost de facto) compulsory disambiguation using the comma. As a reasonable extension of that railway stations also use the comma disambiguation where required, so the convention now used to so name a modest number of railway lines would seem the best and avoids confusion. All Australian lines requiring dab now use the comma except for a couple in WA (Crusoe8181 (talk) 04:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)).Reply
As for Northern Line: I would accept the proposer's rationale as the article is almost wholly about the service rather than a physical line from a to b, but this should be part of a discussion involving a few other articles as well (and perhaps they should begin with CityRail?? that is the name given to the service which links to the relevant more general article on the line. Some redirects and hat notes sorely needed here, but that is another thing Crusoe8181 (talk) 04:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC).Reply

Discussion

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Any additional comments:
I can't see any justification for a capital "L". Piccadilly line has a small "l". There also seems some confusion as to whether we are talking about rail services which occur over other physical lines (in the case of the Cumberland line) or physical railways, like the North Shore line, where the service using it actually runs over other lines.--Grahame (talk) 13:04, 24 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
The justification is simple: In the case of Piccadilly line, the name is "Piccadilly" while the "line" in Piccadilly line is simply a descriptor. That's how Transport for London use it:[1]. In the CityRail case, the line is actually called "Northern Line" and never just "Northern". Again, that's the usage according to the horse's mouth: [2]. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 13:28, 24 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Once this is sorted out, the Category:Northern Line stations seems to need renaming as well, since London in England is claiming it for its own, even though this line in Sydney uses the same name. Category names are not supposed to be ambiguous. (they tend to collect articles that don't belong otherwise) 65.93.12.101 (talk) 03:16, 26 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Missing Burwood Station

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Hi This diagram ECRL Stateplan.png is missing Burwood Station a major stop on this line

 
Diagram of the new Northern Line. The line is marked in red.

Can it be updated ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiefmanzzz (talkcontribs) 06:16, 30 November 2011 (UTC)Reply