Talk:Norton Dunstall

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Move or "fix"

Hi

The article states that the bikes were "Dunstall Norton" rather than the current "Norton Dunstall"

The manufacturer name should go in first. Here, the company buys from the manufacturer and produces a modified vehicle of it's own make and model. The general application for naming these modified-production vehicle seems to be "[Modifier company name] [Modified vehicle or manufacturer name]", for example; Zakspeed Capri, Zagato Maserati Mostro, etc.

This is not the case for "badged" models, such as the "mini cooper", "Fiat 500 Abarth", or "Ford Cosworth" Here the general application for a production-modified vehicles seems to be "[manufacturer company name] [model name] [modifier company name]", This is because the last three were produced by the manufacturers - Mini, Fiat and Ford.

Should this page be moved to "Dunstall Norton" to match the article text? Chaosdruid (talk) 11:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Difficult to give an answer; it was initiated by an Englishman, but Americans call it Norton Dunstall. Similarly - but in reverse-logic - what in UK is known as Manx Norton, Americans call Norton Manx. The lead image in the article for years, File:Norton Dunstall.jpg, was created by a South African landscape photographer called Paul Bernard Toman working out of Canada; I attempted to contact him (self-declared as the uploader) without success - to ascertain when it was taken, why it was sepia, why it was uploaded with that Dunstall descriptive (no exif file info), as it clearly was a Norton/Honda bitsa, without reason to surmise any of it was Dunstall. See c:User talk:Plismo#File: Norton Dunstall.jpg. We are charged with AGF.

I had always intended to develop this article further to include Dunstall Motorcycles (I am still assimilating info, more as a natural conditioning now), as a catch-all term covering Suzuki, for example, with which he had a tie-up mid 1970s allowing for dealer/factory warranties to be maintained despite being modified, and their wind-down in racing, early 1970s. But since being targeted by banner flag waving in 2013 (permalink), I largely abandoned it, except for a few small changes, including procurement of an accurate, representative-image (the restoration was internet-reported).

I rarely now write prose anywhere in WP, it's a last-resort, but swing-by to make a few minor changes and maintenance edits. So I will not offer an opinion on renaming, other than to confirm I've never known it as Norton Dunstall. Thanks for the observation, it prompted my memory on Lotus Carlton.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 14:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)