Talk:Norwegian Lundehund
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Copyright violation
editRemoved latest huge chunk of text taken from: thebreedsofdogs.com; removed as possible copyright violation. If someone can confirm that the copyright holder agrees to the use of this text, we can put it back. Elf | Talk 23:58, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Population numbers
editAre the numbers for the population confirmed? I have noticed numbers that says (elsewehre) that there are present 2000 in Norway and Finland, and 500 in USA alone. This might be overestimated, but then again Wikipedia's text might underestimate the population. Finn Bjørklid 85.165.94.203 17:28, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I have also heard other numbers. It might be an idea to contact Norsk Lundehund Klubb and ask them!--ZorroIII 07:19, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
- According to a spreadsheet available on http://www.nkk.no/cmnkk/public/openIndex/view/page1.html?ARTICLE_ID=1099304941402 there are 1181 registered lundies in Norway as of 2004-01-21--ZorroIII 07:45, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
During the 2006 NLAA Specialty, Sofie Schonheyder announced that the NLK was using the approximation of 1500-2000 world-wide. She didn't have the statistics with her to break it down by country. I know the current US estimates are in the 350 range.NLAAwebmaster 14:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Why does a dog that has so many unique characteristics not considered a separate subspecies-if not a species? Especially since it seems more than likely that the breed(?) originated from a distinct wild population. For example, it is hard to see how selective breeding could have yielded the extreme flexibilty of the Lundehund when that flexibilty exists in no other population of canids.
On the slippery concept of species: http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/05/inbred-thinking.html (...)
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Not only will individual animals often travel great distances to find unoccupied territories, they may also cross the species barrier as they do so. A wolf will mate with both a dog AND a coyote, while finches leap across the species barrier at the drop of a hat. A spotted owl will freely mate with a barred owl, while most amazon parrots freely cross breed. A lion can mate with a tiger and produce fertile offspring, and an African elephant can cross breed with an Asian elephant. A muskellunge will cross with a northern pike, and a sunfish will cross with a bluegill. Trout and salmon species readily hybridize. Many species of hawks and falcons will also cross the species line, while a buffalo will cross with a cow. Just last week a hunter in Alaska shot an animal that turned out to be a cross between a polar bear and a grizzly.
The point here is not that trans-species outcrosses are common, but that even between distinct species Mother Nature often runs her train "loose on the tracks," and a considerable amount of genetic wobble is allowed.
(...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.10.6.47 (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Zoological Travesty/Tragedy
editIf an animal this unusual had been discovered by 19th Century naturalists in the jungles of the Congo or Borneo it would have become widely known and everything would have been done to preserve it. Instead-no doubt because of its origin in boringly non-exotic Norway-it was ignored and almost allowed to become extinct. Especially tragic is that all members of the breed now carry the trait for potentially severe and lethal disease due to unavoidable inbreeding. Falange (talk) 16:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)