Talk:Notions (Winchester College)/GA1

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Unexpectedlydian (talk · contribs) 13:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply


Hi Chiswick Chap, I'm happy to start this review. Comments to follow in the table below. Unexpectedlydian♯4talk 13:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your quick response as ever! Happy to pass this one, well done :) Unexpectedlydian♯4talk 16:58, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
  1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.

General comments

* This many be more of a layout point, but I think the content could be a lot clearer if some of the sections are re-ordered. For example, Folk etymologies could follow Etymologies. Also, I would argue that Notions books should be further up, as when reading the Definition section I was expecting to read something about how the Notions were recorded and disseminated.

  • Repositioned.

Lead

* I don't understand what is meant by "now or formerly" in the opening line. Does it mean the terms are used by current and former pupils? Or that the terms were used now and in the past? Either way, I feel like the line could be made clearer.

  • Edited.

Definition

* Could you also define what a "Wykehamist" is? The term is not mentioned elsewhere in the article.

  • Added and linked.

* Similarly, as this is the first time in the article that Robert Wrench is mentioned, could you write his full name and maybe a very brief description of who he was/his relation to the Notions?

  • Added.

Etymologies

* there is no connection with Toye's house. I had to Google this because I first thought it was referring to someone called Toye and their home. I don't think this statement is necessary, as there is no mention of Moberly's throughout the rest of the article, and the statement is not backed up by a citation.

  • Removed.

* The first instance of "div" does not have a definition, could you add a brief definition?

  • Added.

Folk etymologies

* It was formerly supposed to be derived from "remī day", quasi dies remissionis Having a bit of trouble understanding this statement. Is "remī day" a different language - if so, could you clarify? Also, what does dies remissionis mean in Latin?

  • Edited.

Notions books

* Change "Stevens" to "Charles Stevens" (assuming that is the correct person!).

  • Added.

Notions test

* Minor point, but feels like the second paragraph should come before details of the Tunding Row (unless the test arrangements described in the second paragraph were exclusively the arrangements post-Tunding Row?).

  • Reordered.

  Done


  1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

Lead section

  • All good, see criteria 1a for comment re opening line.
  • Noted.

Layout

Notions books

* Combine first and second paragraphs.

  • Done.

Words to watch

  • None identified.
  • Noted.

Fiction

  • N/A

List incorporation

  • Use of list is appropriate.
  • Noted.

  Done


2. Verifiable with no original research:
  2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  • Properly formatted.

  Done

  2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).

Source check

  • The Spectator. 11 July 1891  Y

** The source states that snob-cricket was known as "Crocketa", not "Crockets". It also does not explicitly state that "Crocketa" is French cricket. Is French cricket commonly known as "snob-cricket"? I don't know what French cricket is!

  • It's wikilinked, which should be sufficient, but I've glossed it also.
  • The English Project  Y
  • Wrench, 1891  Y

** "poser" (examiner, from Middle English) - is the claim that the term is from Middle English because it was used by Chaucer? If so, maybe it's more accurate to say it was used by Chaucer.

      • I've added Chaucer, but Middle English is the language and it's extremely unlikely Chaucer invented the term, so I've left it in place.
  • Holland Park Tuition and Education. 18 December 2020.  Y
  • Trollope, 1889  Y
  • Le Gallienne, 1900  Y

*Same comment re Chaucer.

      • I think we've fixed that above (which should be sufficient), but this common verb was certainly in wide use for many centuries in OE and ME.
  • Middle English Compendium.  Y
  • Old Wykehamists, 1893.  Y

** Can't find any reference to the "Short term" (same goes with ref [3]). Is it cited elsewhere?

      • Removed, we could cite "Short half" but it's not needed here.
  • Johnson, 2020.  Y
  • Bompas, 1888.  Y

** p.12 makes no references to the formalisation of Pempe Sunday, a half vessel, the Greek spelling, etc. Are they cited elsehwere?

      • Removed. As for the Greek spelling, the English/Notion words are simply direct transliterations of the Greek.

Definition * Add an attribution to "really quite small".

  • Added.

  Done


  2c. it contains no original research.

* Will hold off marking this as complete until 2b is addressed.   Done

  2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
  • Copyvio brings up nothing of concern.
  • Spot-checks bring up nothing of concern.

  Done

3. Broad in its coverage:
  3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
  • Content this covers the broad scope of the topic.

  Done

  3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  • Content that the article stays focussed with elaboration where necessary.

  Done

  4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  • Content the article is neutral.

  Done

  5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  • No evidence of recent edit warring. Majority of edits are by the nominator and are all constructive.

  Done

6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
  • All images appropriately tagged with status.
  • Noted.
  • Just noting that the comment for Win coll notions 3 beetleites page 110.jpg is incomplete (sentence stops midway).
  • Noted; it seems to work fine as a caption.
  6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
  • All images are clear, relevant, suitable.
  • Noted.

* Second and third images need alt descriptions.

    • This is not a GA requirement but I've added them for you.

  Done

  7. Overall assessment.