Talk:Nottingham Asphalt Tester

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Moonriddengirl in topic Copyright problem removed

Requested move

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Nottingham Asphalt TesterNottingham asphalt tester

Like telephone, it's generic. This is one that Enric Naval has reverted after I downcased it.

Per WP:MOSCAPS ("Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization") and WP:TITLE, this is a generic, common term, not a propriety or commercial term, so the article title should be downcased. In addition, WP:MOSCAPS says that a compound item should not be upper-cased just because it is abbreviated with caps. Lowercase will match the formatting of related article titles. Tony (talk) 10:22, 24 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Oppose This the proper name of a specific machine built by Cooper and sold under that commercial name. It must be patented because I haven't seen any model from other companies. If this is the generic name of a type of machines, then I haven't found the evidence.
And, of course, this is not an article on generic asphalt testers that happened to be discovered in Nottingham. --Enric Naval (talk) 13:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
I'm struggling to conceive of the difference. Tony (talk) 15:19, 24 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Let's try this: "Nottingham Asphalt Tester" is a product name of a specific product. Product names are proper names and are capitalized. It doesn't stop being a product name because some of its words have a generic meaning in other contexts. Otherwise, we would downcase product name likes Ford Squire, Chevrolet Task Force, or iPod Touch. I can see other product names that are composed exclusively by generic terms, like Reliant Fox, GAZelle, Photoshop, Discovery Studio or Logical Domains. They are all uppercased, always. (Except when the manufacturer indicates a certain capitalization, and reliable sources decide to follow it, the most famous example being the iPod.)
Now, if there is somewhere a whole category of products called generically "Nottingham asphalt testers", I haven't seen it. -Enric Naval (talk) 16:27, 24 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Here you have another specific product, Model H-3860 (Los Angeles Abrassion Machine). In this laboratory page[1] they only capitalize the Nottingham and the Los Angeles machines, all the other products are downcased. I say that this is because they are the only product names of in the list, all the other are generic names of a type of products that everyone can manufacture. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
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What is it?

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The article says what this equipment does, but not what it is. It asserts that it is an invention, implying that it is more than a piece of equipment carrying out existing tests in a convenient way. I don't know whether it is, in point of fact, notable; the information provided and sourced doesn't assert or support this. 2 out of 3 links are dead. Pol098 (talk) 09:01, 2 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Re-write the article

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The article is on a widley used peice of equipment used by almost all civil engineering laboratories. Needs re-writing incase the current text is violating copyrights and thus should not be enitirely deleted

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