Talk:November 14

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November 14: World Diabetes Day; Dobruja Day in Romania Apollo 12 launches from the Kennedy Space Center 1941 – Second World War: After suffering torpedo damage the previous day, the British aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal sank as she was being towed to Gibraltar for repairs. 1969 – Apollo 12 (pictured) launched from the Kennedy Space Center, later becoming the second crewed flight to land on the Moon. 1990 – Music producer Frank Farian admitted that the German R&B duo Milli Vanilli did not sing the vocals on their album Girl You Know It's True. 1992 – In poor conditions caused by Cyclone Forrest, Vietnam Airlines Flight 474 crashed near Nha Trang, killing 30 people. 2003 – Astronomers Michael E. Brown, Chad Trujillo, and David L. Rabinowitz discovered the trans-Neptunian object Sedna. Mikayel Nalbandian (b. 1829) John Abercrombie (d. 1844) Franz Müller (d. 1864) Bernard Hinault (b. 1954) More anniversaries: November 13 November 14 November 15

Robert Fulton

The notion that he "invented" the steamboat is absurd - the Wikipedia page for Steamboats lists half a dozen people who built working and commercially viable steamboats before Fulton. 104.129.200.111 (talk) 17:41, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Untitled

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• 2006 - New Adventures of Superman Season 4 DVD Released

Absolutely trivial, this is not a page for dvd launch dates. --68.199.153.255 02:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

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• 1698 - first Eddystone Lighthouse is lit

Trivial. Not really a notable lighthouse. --mav 04:23, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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• 1832 - First streetcar (a horse-drawn wagon) goes into operation, in New York City.

Could not be confirmed outside of 'this day in history'-like pages. --mav 04:23, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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• 1941 - World War II: The aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal capsizes and sinks after being torpedoed by U 81.

Nope - happened on November 13. --mav

A bit late now, but Nope - this indeed happened on 14 November, at 0619hrs in the morning to be precise. The torpedoing happened the day before, at 15.41 hours. Benea (talk) 22:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

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• 1942 - World War II: Battle of Guadalcanal - Aviators from the USS Enterprise sink the Japanese heavy cruiser BB- Hiei.

Nope - happened on November 13. --mav

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• 1945 - Nuremberg Trials begin: Trials against the main war criminals of World War II start in court room 600 of the Nuremberg Palace of Justice.

Nope - happened on November 20. --mav 04:23, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Coventry Bombing

I think it should be noted that James McDade managed to blow himself up by accident whilst bombing the Post Office in Coventry city centre. Possibly by coincidence, it happens to be 34 years after the WWII bombing of Coventry.

Also, the 'Birmingham Six' were also arrested on their way to his funeral. 86.148.84.79 01:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Nicolai Cleve Broch

He is one of Norway's most well-known contemporary actors. I'll get to working on the article when time permits. If his article isn't at DYK-level at the end of the month, I won't object to his removal from the list. Sounds good? decltype (talk) 21:24, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

If the level of the biography has risen sufficiently by any date in the future I will not object to it being included. If he is put back now somebody else will almost certainly remove him. Drappel (talk) 21:32, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

That may be, but I think inclusion in such a list should be based on the subject's inherent notability, and not the length of the subject's article here. Cleve Broch also has entries on six other wikis. decltype (talk) 21:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

All the other wikis have only stub articles, being one of the most well know actors in any country is not an indication of global notability. Drappel (talk) 22:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I never said that. All I'm saying is that either the subject is notable, or it isn't, according to the relevant guidelines, and the length of the subject's article on the English Wikipedia doesn't change that fact. For this reason, I see no apparent basis in our policies or guidelines for the statement "... one line biography, which indicates a lack of sufficient notability". However, I do agree that the subject should ideally have a more comprehensive article, so I've simply deleted the old one. From what you said above, I take it you will not object to the article's inclusion here once the article has been improved. Regards, decltype (talk) 02:25, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, the article has been significantly expanded. Please let me know if you have further objections to it being added to this page. Regards, decltype (talk) 05:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

As the article currently stands with the guidelines for inclusion as they currently stand I personally have no strong objections to inclusion, others may object even now or in the future. To have included it before expansion, even with the promise of expansion would have been to put the cart before the horse. I see that the Norwegian language version is now considerably less complete than the English language version. Drappel (talk) 15:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Lech Wałęsa released from prison

1982: I noted that it was mentioned on 12th November that Lech Walesa was released, wich one is correct, the 12th or the 14th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.178.77 (talk) 12:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm...good question. The Lech Wałęsa article states he was released on the 14th, but neither of the sources in the article actually gives this exact date, just that he was released in November. According to [1] and [2] he was released on the 14th, but according to [3] and [4] he was released on the 12th. Googling around can find lots more links supporting both dates, but the sources look better for the 12th. The BBC article seems to have been written at the time, and supports the 12th as the right date. This should be sorted out in the Lech Wałęsa article first. I'll try doing a bit more research, but I suspect the article should be changed to support the 12th. Winston365 (talk) 20:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I've gone through a bunch of newspaper articles and from what I can tell it seems the release papers were signed on the 12th (Friday), he was released on the 13th and arrived back home in Gdańsk on the 14th (Sunday). Some links that support this time frame: [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]. I'll try to sort through this and work out the best way to fix the Lech Wałęsa article. As for which of these pages should have the entry, I'm not entirely sure which is the best date yet. Winston365 (talk) 00:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm beginning to think that the Lech Wałęsa article doesn't really need fixing here. It doesn't actually state he was released on the 14th directly, just that he was incarcerated until the 14th. I suppose this is probably true in a sense. Although this article states he could technically be considered a free man after the signing of the release papers, which seemed to happen on the 12th, in this article there is a direct quote from Wałęsa stating the final order releasing him were signed only minutes before his arrival back home in Gdańsk on the 14th. All of this is of course bordering on WP:SYN, but it seems to me a direct quote from Wałęsa published in a reliable source (the Bangor Daily News) stating he wasn't technically released until the 14th is good enough to establish the 14th as the best date. Initial papers may have been signed on the 12th, and he may have left Arłamów on the 13th, but he was still in custody and evidently there was still paperwork to do before things were finalized. Perhaps a slight rewording could be done to the entry on November 14 but I'm not sure it's necessary. I have removed the event from November 12. Winston365 (talk) 21:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Births and Deaths

Continuing the ongoing effort to reduce the size of the Births and Deaths sections to make them manageable, I'm removing some celebrities with few or no articles in other wikipedias, moving the entries to the appropriate Year in Topic article if they were not already present. This is in accordance with the guidelines. See discussions at Wikipedia_talk:Days_of_the_year. Deb (talk) 12:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

1990

German–Polish Border Treaty a direct link would be nice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.70.116 (talk) 20:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2020

1990 add link to German–Polish Border Treaty infront of treaty 70.59.70.116 (talk) 17:20, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done Danski454 (talk) 17:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Please add

Births 1984 - Tony Gaffney, American basketball player

References

Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2021

Please add "*1996 – Hiba Nawab, Indian actress" in Births section
Source: Hiba Nawab
122.163.180.12 (talk) 20:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: I also removed the unsourced DOB from her BLP. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:31, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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888888 106.200.113.114 (talk) 15:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

What's this about? Deb (talk) 15:37, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2022

In the section regarding births, William III of England is placed here. His birthday is actually November 4th. He needs to be removed to keep the page accurate. ECP863 (talk) 03:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Not done: The date of birth of November 14 is correct according to the Gregorian calendar. The date of November 4 is according to the Julian calendar. DOY articles use the Gregorian calendar (please see WP:DOYSTYLE). Kiwipete (talk) 07:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Opening of english tunnel to passenger 14 november 1994

14 november 1994 Kd942 (talk) 14:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

What's an english tunnel? Deb (talk) 14:33, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

@Deb I think the original commenter means the Chunnel, which first opened to passengers on November 14, 1994. Bremps... 00:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

I think so too - I was just making the point that their request was unclear. Deb (talk) 12:44, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2023

2002 – Elena Nikolaidi, Turkish-American soprano and educator (b. 1909) Change Turkish to Greek. See the article. (Her name is obviously Greek, too.) 71.105.243.101 (talk) 05:02, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Michael Busselle

Michael Busselle got on the list by mistake. He was born November 4, not 14 Nevecher (talk) 04:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, @Nevecher, I've removed the entry. Kiwipete (talk) 07:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)