Talk:Nyakyusa people

Latest comment: 10 years ago by MrSativa in topic Colonial History

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The Germans considered the area to be 'a Garden of Africa', seeing it as the most fertile part of former German East Africa ‹The template Talkfact is being considered for merging.› [citation needed].


Because the article is talking about the ethnic group, but this sentence is about the geography of Tanzania.

I come from Tukuyu, actually born there,a small town in the district of Rungwe Mbeya region-one of the two most important towns of the Nyakyusa. The other town is Kyela near the shores of Lake Nyasa. Tukuyu was named Neu Langenburg by the Germans in view of the geogeaphical location of the town as you mention on the removed sentence. I believe the sentence should stay because it depicts a geographical scenario which has had a big impact on the Nyakyusa who lived in and around the smal town. Lawrence Gwakisa Esili lawrence@mac.co.tz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.43.76.28 (talk) 16:59, 27 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Colonial History

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The entire part called 'Colonial History', has nothing to do with the Nkonde people, let alone their history under colonialism. This is just colonial propaganda, complete with British soldiers riding in to end slavery. I have noticed that this is a trend with articles about Africa, in that there is an attempt to rehabilitate colonialism and colonial history.

" The Scots had founded Karonga in 1875. "

According to Karonga's history page: "Some time before 1877 Karonga existed as the stronghold of Mlozi, a famous Arab slaver.[2] In 1883 a British trading post, which formed the basis of the modern town, was opened there.[2] British explorer Sir Harry Johnston bought the post in 1895 and ended the slave trade on Lake Nyasa's western shore.[2] At this point Karonga became an important commercial and agricultural center.[2] According to Lonely Planet, the town "still bears a strong Swahili-Arab influence today."[3]"

" In 1889, the treaties of Harry Johnston reduced the state of regular war between the Konde Chiefs and the Arabs. "

Oh, the blessings of colonialism. Again, this is not about the Ngonde people under colonialism, but the brave colonial exploits of 'Harry Johnston'?

" In 1895 the British hanged Mlozi, a slave trader. "

Which is ironic, because the British used to be the biggest slave traders around.

The entire article has a conversational tone and supplies no sources.MrSativa (talk) 04:28, 9 February 2014 (UTC)Reply