Talk:Oaks Christian School

NPOV

This article is in need of a re-write possibly. The template saying it may be advertisement-like is absolutely correct. Please tweak as necessary. Mientkiewicz5508 20:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Request for third opinion

Repeated inclusion of Wayne Gretzky in article

To the editor(s) who continue to make the claim that Wayne Gretzky has a child in attendance at this school: There are no sources provided to establish this fact. Please read Wikipedia policy on biographies of living persons. Since there is no verifiable source cited to establish the claim, it must not be included here per that policy. --Dachannien^Talk_Contrib 08:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

As someone who lives in the area, I can confirm that Wayne Gretzky's child does attend the school. In fact, the school touts the fact very prominently because the Gretzky family donates a lot of money to the school. For instance, there is a banner in the football arena and he has a reserved parking spot at the school. However, due to the anonymous nature of the internet, i'm not sure that my comments may be helpful, however, I do offer my verification of these facts. --Edward —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.229.105.134 (talk) 05:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

It took quite a while, but eventually, someone found an appropriate source for this information (you can see it in the article by following the [2] footnote). On a side note: your contribution is appreciated, although you've already touched on part of the reason why anecdotal sources don't work on Wikipedia - there's no way to verify such information. Wikipedia has some important foundational policies covering things like this, in an effort to ensure that the information on Wikipedia draws from reliable sources (see verifiability and original research for more info). Thanks! --Dachannien^Talk_Contrib 11:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Non-notable and unverified references to soccer team participants

To the editor(s) who continue to place unverified and POV claims on this article concerning the girls' soccer team: Wikipedia has policies regarding content which espouses a point of view. Specifically, Wikipedia must remain neutral. An article cannot make claims about X being best without a third-party reputable and verifiable source to that effect. Additionally, being recruited into a college soccer team is not sufficient to establish notability, especially without a cited source. The {{fact}} tag is not meant to obviate your responsibility to provide a source - it is used as a crutch in some cases when an uncontroversial piece of information is likely to be verifiable but no source has yet been obtained. Biographical information on living people does not qualify as "uncontroversial", and so I have removed that information repeatedly to keep this article in compliance with policy. Instead of re-adding that material without providing sources, please at least explain (1) why you feel that the material is noteworthy enough for an encyclopedia article and (2) where you are going to obtain sources to verify the material you want to place in the article. --Dachannien^Talk_Contrib 08:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

To any visiting third opinion providers

The edits in question are these:

• [1] [2]: Repeated inclusion of non-notable and/or POV material with no sources establishing notability.
• [3]: Repeated inclusion of Wayne Gretzky's name, suggesting that he has a child enrolled at this school, when no sources are provided to verify that fact (an attempt to provide a source was recently attempted, but the provided link broken and hence still unverifiable). --Dachannien^Talk_Contrib 04:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

• Third opinion

1) I agree that this information should be removed. The second link is clearly opinion and should be removed. The first one was a little different to me... it seems that this should be a relatively easy statement to source - find a couple links that show that these players did attend the high school and college stated, and other link(s) showing that these players are somewhat elite. I'm not terribly sure I would include this information in an article I was writing about a high school, but I suppose I don't have much against it, either.

2) Definitely agree it should be removed, and I'm not even sure it's notable even if we were able to prove it.

Tanthalas39 (talk) 05:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks much for providing your feedback. I've edited the article appropriately. Hopefully, the editor in question will read the messages I've left on the IP address talk pages they've used in the past and will come here instead of simply editing the article again. --Dachannien^Talk_Contrib 14:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

New source: kids of Wayne Gretzky, Joe Montana and Will Smith all on the same football team.

LA Times, no less. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-me-oaks11-2008jul11,0,6021213,full.column --Bobak (talk) 21:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)