Talk:Oasis-class cruise ship

Most expensive ship ever built?

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz_class_aircraft_carrier , one Nimitz class carrier costs $4.5 billion to make. Either one of these statements needs to be qualified or deleted...and neither has cited sources. -Snpoj 05:14, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe they are referring to it being the most expensive cruise ship ever built. Not sure. But I think it does need to be clarified. Splamo 22:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Has it been verified that the first ship in the class will be named Genesis of The Seas? If not, why call it that? KindOfBlue 11:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

there's no proof there going to be named those 3 names Jerrycobra 23:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm quite confused about this whole event, as Royal Caribbean themselves refer to the project as being "nicknamed 'Genesis'", whereas Popular Mechanics gives the impression that the flagship will be named Genesis, to wit: "Royal Caribbean is set to raise the stakes yet again with the 220,000-ton Genesis..." (June 2007 issue, "6 Mega Engineering Projects", page 86). Some clarification, perhaps, is warranted here. Either way, I doubt they'd be both so arrogant and so self-competitive that they'd issue Genesis of the Seas so soon after launching Freedom of the Seas. Orethrius 05:28, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Images

http://dba-oracle.blogspot.com/2007/02/genesis-mega-cruise-ships-coming.html Some graphics... Maybe someone can use it and upload. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Willfey (talk • contribs) 14:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

exceeds Verrazanomax dimensions

I presume the owners have no plans for this vessel to dock in New York, since it appears it will not fit under the Verrazano Bridge, which the OM2 barely does —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.84.60 (talk) 00:42, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

They can fit under. The ships are 65 meters above the water, the bridge is 69.5 meters. Not sure if they would be allowed to though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.235.136.245 (talk) 17:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Taking hits, listing, rolling over

The article talks about features like bowling alleys, IMAX movie, indoor parachuting atrium, etc. but I see no mention of torpedo bulges, belt armour, deck armour, massive hull compartmentalization, damage control squads, etc. Considering some 8500 people will be onboard the GC ship and there are still quite a few bearded jihadists out there with TNT-laden doahs and rubber dingies, it could be like 3 times 9/11 when hit. Is it responsible to build such a huge passenger ship out of tinfoil and plaster? Considering it has a draught of 9.5 meters and stands 65 meters tall above water, all the walls must be made of cardboard. Scary! 82.131.210.162 20:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh please!, you've obviously never been on a cruise ship before or cared to take note of the security. The USCG and port authority in all port strictly watch the ships and the waters around. Unlike the USS Cole, the majority of passengers would be above the are effected by such as blast. Walls made of cardboard? The safety measures on these ships (Water tight compartments, fire doors, fire control, et cetera) are massive. The maritime industry is one of the most policed groups even compared to the auto industry. Just think if 8,500 more people died from auto deaths this year compared to last... Of wait the "shock" factor would not be there. I do believe there is a point that is "too" big but I think with new technology and a growing cursing industry, we've not even come close. --zrulli 17:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Today in th news, we are hearing about the Costa of human lives with regards to the cruise ship industry. The literal tinfoil/cardboard strenght of those clay-footed giants became obvious off Tuscany, as an 5kn reef meet made a tore in the hull comparable to the 20kn Titanic's fatal wound. About 2/3rd of the Costa giant in underwater now. Where was the massive compartmentalization, where were the drainage teams, where was the torpedo protection system that was supposed to prevent such a flooding event? Do you think the same impact could sink a Nimitz class or a Kirov-class battlecruiser? Those are not made of paper-think material! 87.97.51.159 (talk) 10:14, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Reverse move Genesis Class/Oasis Class

Request left to undo/move the Genesis and Oasis renaming swap that was made. The class of ship remains Genesis, with the first ship in that series being announced as named "Oasis of the Seas". Move requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves#23 May 2008. —Sladen (talk) 14:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Read the RCI press release cited. In the third paragraph it clearly states, "Weiser’s well-chosen names...earned him the honor of naming not only the world’s next largest and most innovative cruise ships, but the entire class of the new ships, the Oasis-class." EJSawyer (talk) 15:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

One press-release is now using "Genesis Project" several times and "Oasis Class" once. —Sladen (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. The project is now referred to by the code-name Genesis. However, the ships now fall under the class of Oasis. EJSawyer (talk) 15:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Request cancelled at Requested Moves. (Edit Conflict hit again) —Sladen (talk) 15:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Beam?

"At 360 m (1,180 feet) in length they will be 23 meters (69 feet) longer, and 15 m (48 feet) wider than the present longest passenger ship, the Queen Mary 2. It will also be 8.5 meters (29 feet) wider, with a 43% greater gross tonnage of 220,000 t."

I think we need some clarification with the beam of the ship. Firstly, how can it be both 15m and 8.5m wider than the QM2? Is it being compared to 2 ships or the hull and bridge wings of the QM2? Secondly, the width is given as 47m for this ship (hull or bridge wings?), and the beam of the QM2 is given as 45m (bridge) or 41m at the waterline. If this is accurate it can be a maximum of 6m wider. Can someone please clarify this?Jhbuk (talk) 13:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Engines

The engine specifications for Oasis class of ships differs form the specs for ship Oasis of the Seas. Please check. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.111.52.54 (talk) 11:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Now updated. Kablammo (talk) 17:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The cruise ship with name Oasis of the Seas is just one vessel in process of building, but when come on water this vessel will be the largest cruise ship of the world. Oasis of the Seas is one new page in maritime transport, and I’m sure that the noise to this ship will be even larger than to Queen Mary 2. The cruise ship Oasis of the Seas is large and very luxury. The deadweight of the ship is 220,000 Gross Register Tons, while the displacement of the vessel is approximately 100,000 metric tons. The vessel Oasis of the Seas has a length of 360 meters (or 1,181 feet) and the beam of 47 meters (or 154 feet). The height of the vessel Oasis of the Seas is 65 meters (or 213 feet), which is the dimension above the water line, and the draft of the giant will be 9 meters (30 feet). Such large cruise ship will need of strong engine, which should be economy, environmental and safety. The builders installed eight Wartsila V12 engines, with power of 17,500 horse powers each, which is giving a high power pretty enough for such large vessel. And with this engine and propulsion system of Asea Brown Boveri Azipod, which has a power of 3x20 MW is giving the speed to the ship of 20.3 knots, which is even not the maximum possible speed, but the economy oneThe vessel Oasis of the Seas is one perfectly and very beautiful designed ship. The vessel is building in the Aker Yards in Turku, Finland. The maiden voyage of the vessel is planned for 12th of December, 2009. To this date there is a lot of time, so we will expect with great interest the time, when the vessel will be put on water. And the beauty of the cruise ship Oasis of the Seas, should be great, in words of the ship-owner Royal Caribbean International. The passengers capacity of the vessel is the incredible 5,400 guests. According to the information the ratio between guests and crew on board will be between 2.3 and 2.7, but even higher value of this number, will not be in harm of the passengers. The cruise ship Oasis of the Seas will offer 5 star luxury cruises, which is the main purpose while the contract for this ship was signed. In press release of the ship-owner the ship will have a large green area, nice parks and many entertainments for young and old people. The innovation in entertainment is aquatheatre, which is one very interesting idea of the builders of this vessel. Also the ship will have library, theatre, 3 cinemas, many shops, disco clubs and whatever you can imagine. This ship is one of the most interesting and definitely many words will be written in the next years about Oasis of the Seas.

date: 8th September, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.10.0.171 (talk) 20:16, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Help needed with Ships category

Hi all,

I need some help with trying to fix the category with Ships. I've added some new info about the 3rd Oasis-class ship but something happened and the box thing got very wide on the page. Can someone please fix it? I'm slightly new to wikipedia. Thanks. Sir. Skrill (talk) 01:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. Tupsumato (talk) 06:49, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Ships table

In the Notes section for Allure, Harmony, and Symphony there is a "citation needed." I was going to say "just look left one column" but upon further inspection that column does not support the claims, just look at the data. Symphony is more than 1 meter shorter that Harmony although it has a higher gross tonnage so it depends on which measurement you are talking. I thought I would verify the data from the links given so I followed the reference links pointing to https://vesselregister.dnvgl.com/VesselRegister/vesseldetails.html (and then the vessel number) and they seem to be correct (I had to adjust the length for Allure). It seems Oasis and Allure were tied initially and still are based on length but Oasis is now "bigger" by gross tonnage.

Anyway, obvious some cleanup is needed in the Notes but when that has been adjusted, I think we can get rid of the "citation needed" since the data to support the claims will be right there in the two columns to the left and those numbers have valid citations. Thoughts on that? Andrew S. (talk) 19:18, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that table and the notes are very confusing. The Allure and Harmony are presented as the third largest and second largest ships, and then state a difference in length with the previous ship. Then the Symphony is introduced as largest, and somehow the reader is supposed to know this is a listing by tonnage? I'd say, either make the Harmony the largest, or mention the differences in tonnage instead of length. 62.216.5.216 (talk) 10:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Why isn't there an article for Wonder of the Seas?

Hey all, Wonder of the Seas is wrapping up construction and there's lots of info about it, but it's like nobody wants to create an article for said ship. Can anyone explain why? I've been searching for an article, but everything (including a link on this page) redirects back here.

I guess it's up to me... Kaio mh (talk) 22:17, 25 September 2021 (UTC)