Talk:Observations and explorations of Venus

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It would be nice to combine this page with the other page "Exploration of Venus". This page is the better one, but some information from Exploration of Venus could be included.

"Exploration of Venus" contains too much of a bias toward Magellan, and glosses over all other missions. This page could use a little more information about Magel

• Merge Exploration of Venus into this one --GW_Simulations 15:19, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per GW Simulations. M1ss1ontomars2k4 12:19, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. There is no reason to have 2 articles on Explorations of Venus.DavidGC 11:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into this one per nom and GW. --BillC 00:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Merge done.... but it will need cleanup. Cwolfsheep 19:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

This article cites no sources; notice of such added. Drooling Sheep 10:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

why don't we add a timeline tab like the one in the mars article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SquallLeonhart ITA (talk • contribs) 10:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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The "first" to observe Venus

I don't think that the Babylonians were the first to observe Venus considering it's one of the brightest objects in the night sky. Maybe the original author meant something else. Also, the Historical observations section needs to be sourced and probably even redone. --AntigrandiosË^Talk 00:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

The first culture to have a proper writing system is the Sumerian, and indeed they had a goddess (an Anunnaki) to represent that sky object. They had a cuneiform writing system that is older than the Babylonians'. So indeed the assertion that babylonians were the first to observe venus is incorrect. there is little doubt today that the Sumerians knew about the solar system since in fact they had depictions (in tablets) of stars orbiting a larger one (aka the sun) but they didn't have proper star catalogues. The ones to firstly develop that were the babylonians. So Venus was really not catalogued until the babylonians, but the sumerians were producing solar star system schemes before that. So yes, indeed Sumeria's Venus (Inanna) is older than babylonias' Ishtar. However we should be sure that no culture before had depictions of venus in caverns or murals to declare the Sumerians as the first astronomy oriented civilization, and I think that is subject of much debate today as some ancient Amerindian (north america) culture has been discovered that predates the mesopotamical sumeria and most likely they were into astronomy too (could be either orion or venus they were focused on). So about the article, more references are needed to include sumeria in the tale of the observations. 181.56.97.143 (talk) 19:52, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Copyright violation

I am very concerned about the use of non-free images to denote the operators of spacecraft in this article (I think it is just the JAXA logo in this article). They can easily be replaced in this manner with text indicating the agency name, and therefore their use here violates copyright, and cannot be justified as fair use. --W. D. Graham 09:09, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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This article is a mess!!! mixing up religious views with nasa explorations

A separate article Venus in Religion should contain the references to mesopotamical/egyptian/greek goddesses that have represented the natural phenomena. mixing up things like "theosophy" with nasa explorations does make little sense to the article's title. 181.56.97.143 (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I have created a separate article Venus in culture to handle detailed descriptions of how Venus was interpreted in various mythologies and religions. I will par down those sections of this article and leave only information about its observations, not its mythic interpretations. Dinoguy2 (talk) 19:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

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Rocket Lab

This mission should be worked in at some point. There's not yet much detail, so it's not clear if it fits into the article yet.

Rocket Lab is sending the first private mission to Venus in search of supporting evidence of organic compounds in the cloud layer - traces of life. The goal, using an Electron launch vehicle and Photon spacecraft, is to send a probe to around 30 miles’ altitude, where Venus’ atmospheric conditions are closer to those found on Earth.

xlynx (talk) 23:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Observations?

How come this article is named Observations and explorations when other planets are just exploration? Exploration of Mars Exploration of Jupiter Exploration of Pluto

It needlessly conflates ancient observations with modern space exploration. 𝙏𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙢𝙖𝙣地形人 (talk) 14:31, 15 November 2024 (UTC)