Talk:Occupy Salem

Sources

• http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/10/oregon_politics_congressional_1.html
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20111010/COLUMN0105/110100320/-Occupy-movement-right-up-SEIU-s-alley?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CHome
• http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/10/hundreds_gather_for_occupy_sal.html
• http://www.katu.com/news/local/131888583.html
• http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october152011/occupy-salem-01.php
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20111016/NEWS/110160366/Occupy-Salem-protests-continue?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CNews
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20111013/UPDATE/111013005/Occupy-Salem-protesters-vacate-night-return-Friday?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CNews
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20111016/OPINION/110160352/Proud-all-involved-Occupy-Salem
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20111014/NEWS/110140351/Demonstrators-vacate-park-avoid-arrest?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CNews
• http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Occupy-Salem-moves-camp-avoids-arrests-131813213.html
• http://occupysalemoregon.com/
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20111010/UPDATE/111010021/Occupy-Salem-numbers-dwindle-park-nears-closure
• http://www.kptv.com/story/15661186/occupy-salem-rally-draws-several-hundred-to-capitol
• http://news.opb.org/article/occupy_salem_movement_settles_in_for_long_haul/
• http://www.ktvz.com/news/29446447/detail.html
• http://www.kuow.org/northwestnews.php?storyID=141294378
• http://www.oregonbusiness.com/high-five/10-high-five/6005-occupy-salem-to-begin-today
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20111010/NEWS/110100329/Occupy-Salem-set-begin-today-rally-march
• http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/Former-Salem-mayor-joins-occupy-protest-members/uMrExg05OECW61whrpg70g.cspx
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=J0&Dato=20111011&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=110110807&Ref=PH
• http://www.kptv.com/story/15686498/occupy-salem-protesters-leave-park-overnight
• http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44846572/ns/local_news-portland_or/t/occupy-salem-protest-camps-out-near-capitol/
• http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20111011/NEWS/110110337/Salem-protesters-add-their-voices-Occupy-movement
• http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Anti-corporate-protest-arrives-at-Salem-131461018.html
• http://salem.katu.com/news/business/443441-occupy-movement-arrives-salem

Feel free to add more. Article expansion to come, especially once things slow down a bit... --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:12, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Redirect discussion occurring for this article

• There's a discussion occurring regarding a proposal to redirect this article to the Occupy Wall Street article, occurring here: at the administrator's noticeboard. Please feel free to comment regarding this matter there. Northamerica1000^(talk) 08:50, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

• The discussion above was closed on 21 October 2011 (UTC). Northamerica1000^(talk) 23:21, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Merge

I was sorry to see this article merged to a list of Occupy protests. Had I seen the merge tag before I would have argued against the proposal. I won't contest the merge now, but I do plan on expanding an article for Occupy Salem in the near future. --Another Believer _(Talk) 19:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

It was merged because of WP:NOTNEWS and because it was a small-scale protest not notable outside of the greater movement. Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 20:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose - The AfD discussion for this article had a strong consensus to Keep, and resulted in keep. Northamerica1000^(talk) 21:00, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Redirection without merging any of the content, which has occurred, is similar to deletion, because the information is not readily available to Wikipedia's readers. Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Redirection, regardless of whether or not content is merged, operates by a different set of rules than deletion does, and an article can still be merged or redirected no matter which way an AfD goes. Those are the rules Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 01:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Support merge. Since this isn't an AfD discussion, I'll use my original research: this is absolutely not notable. Valfontis (talk) 03:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Comment - How is the topic non-notable, or more specifically, how in your opinion does the topic fail Wikipedia's General notability guideline? If you feel the topic is not notable, why would you want to merge the information to another article? Northamerica1000^(talk) 04:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose Coverage in a number of different news outlets meets the notability guideline. Silverseren^C 05:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

What about WP:NOTNEWS? Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

You can't cite NOTNEWS for everything. The coverage for Occupy Salem came from several different news outlets, like the Boston Globe, and was spread out over a period of months. Silverseren^C 05:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Um, the Boston Globe reference a) isn't in the article, and b) is probably to Salem, Massachusetts and not Salem, Oregon. And, yes, I can cite NOTNEWS, ONEEVENT, or any other numbers of policies. Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 05:45, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Strong redirect: fails WP:NOTNEWS Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I think this article could exist on its own if it were expanded properly. The problem is no one seems to be willing to take the time to do so. I would like to at some point but I am working on other articles at the moment. --Another Believer _(Talk) 05:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Comment – Note that at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 February 24 – Occupy article redirects, three users opposed the redirection of this article to the List of Occupy movement protest locations in the United States article, and one user (the proposer for merging, User:Purplebackpack89) supported it. Northamerica1000^(talk) 15:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)