Talk:Odebrecht case

Dominican Republic

Bilonio. Many thanks for your recent contribution to the article. However, there is one issue: your addition is unduly long, in proportion to the relative importance of the Odebrecht case in Dominican Republic, compared to its importance in other countries, such as Brazil, especially, and also Peru, Argentina, Mexico, and others. For example, it is completely askew to have eight times as much content about Dominican Republic as about Brazil, as is now the case. Brazil had thousands of arrests, hundreds of prosecutions, and included top politicians, governors, presidents, and high corporate officials involved in this part of Operation Car Wash. Dominican Republic had minimal involvement, no high-level prosecutions, nor any significant political upheaval in the county, and was a mere blip in comparison to Brazil. Corruption in Dominican Republic is tied mostly to other scandals and issues, and Odebrecht had little effect there.

One possibility would be to cut back the section on Dominican Republic to one or two sentences; any more than that would be UNDUE. However, you have already done all this work, and there is another approach you could take. Please start by reading WP:Summary style, and then create a new Draft, moving all the content you wrote about Dominican Republic to Draft:Odebrecht case in the Dominican Republic, and then summarize it in one or two sentences, and add it to section § Dominican Republic. Please {{ping}} me when you are ready with that, and I will help you with the next steps, to turn the Draft into an article. Thanks again, Mathglot (talk) 10:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mathglot

Hello, I'm not very experienced in contributing to the English Wikipedia. I placed the information in the draft. Since the case is now resolved in the Dominican Republic, I wanted to update it. I didn't remove the information from the main article because, honestly, I don't know how to do the rest. Could you please help me out? Bilonio (talk) 14:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bilonio:, sure. I cut back the § Dominican Republic section to leave a summary there instead; please have a look. It is still too long, compared to the other sections like § Brazil, but I wanted to do it stepwise, to ensure I didn't cut anything essential. In this first cut, I kept all the references, dropped a lot of detail, and all of the names. Could you have a look at it, please, and let me know if you think it adequately summarizes the same essential narrative of the Odebrecht case in the Dominican Republic that you wrote, except for being much shorter than the original, of course? (You will also notice that I've made an organizational change to the section structure of the article as well, adding a new, one-sentence § Overview section—to be expanded—and grouping the country sections together; but all that has nothing to do with creation of the Draft.)

The second part of this effort, will be to expand the Draft, but we can talk more about that separately, on the talk page there. Mathglot (talk) 01:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I find your editing spot on. Thank you for the great help! Moving forward, I will be working on the draft little by little, with the goal of making it exactly as you indicated. Once again, thank you very much Bilonio (talk) 13:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Bilonio, as far as the draft is concerned, please see also the discussion Draft talk:Odebrecht case in the Dominican Republic#Developing the draft. Mathglot (talk) 08:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

The draft has been released as Odebrecht case in the Dominican Republic. Please continue to improve it as you see fit. Mathglot (talk) 08:51, 17 September 2024 (UTC)