Talk:Ohio's 6th congressional district
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Change to lead
editJjgoatin Please quote the exact text in the source you are using for "The district's boundaries changed in 2012 when the state lost two congressional seats. It became much more Republican." --NeilN talk to me 22:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Can't find it?
- Jjgoatin No, please answer my question. --NeilN talk to me 22:13, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Redistricting
editSources such as the Daily Kos are sources with a clear partisan agenda, in this case, the Daily Kos' purpose is to further Democratic Party and otherwise liberal agenda, and is a blog, not a news source. Additionally, the other source used in the 'gerrymandering' sentence is from a Washington Post blog, and a blog is not a news source, it is opinion. Therefore, this edit 23:56, July 22, 2015 which I made, using the one credible news source, should stand. Mentioning gerrymandering in favor of the Republicans cannot be sourced from credible news and analysis sources, and is blatantly partisan. It is opinion that the district was gerrymandered, but without credible sourcing, such cannot be included in this article. Spartan7W § 00:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- The sourcing seems fine to me. A blog isn't necessarily opinion, and the WP blog is impressive: no way it's not a reliable source. The Cleveland.com source seems fine as well. Drmies (talk) 03:33, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- The information has already been covered in the history section. The tone of that sentence he has added isn't wholly neutral. Spartan7W § 03:35, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've reverted myself, following NeilN's question, above--but I think what you're saying is that you were wrong about the sources. Please don't shoot from the hip. Drmies (talk) 03:43, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- His initial source was the Daily Kos. That doesn't count as a source. However my relevant objection is to the agenda of his edits. Districting history doesn't belong in the lead, and there is no empirical evidence to support the district's change to more republican, as they elected a Republican before the redistricting. Spartan7W § 03:59, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- I reverted myself because of those issues. There is, it seems to me, at least some valid content in those references though what they prove is not immediately clear to me: I'll leave that to the politicos. But note also that when the sock reinstated the edits they changed the wording some, and by the time I got to it there were two very acceptable sources. Drmies (talk) 13:09, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- His initial source was the Daily Kos. That doesn't count as a source. However my relevant objection is to the agenda of his edits. Districting history doesn't belong in the lead, and there is no empirical evidence to support the district's change to more republican, as they elected a Republican before the redistricting. Spartan7W § 03:59, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've reverted myself, following NeilN's question, above--but I think what you're saying is that you were wrong about the sources. Please don't shoot from the hip. Drmies (talk) 03:43, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- The information has already been covered in the history section. The tone of that sentence he has added isn't wholly neutral. Spartan7W § 03:35, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
2010 Census and Redistricting
editThe topic of the 2010 census and the redistricting of Ohio's congressional apportionment as a result has been covered in the history section, and is not appropriate for placement in the lead section. Furthermore, a Republican was elected to represent Ohio's 6th in 2010, prior to redistricting, thus, allegations of gerrymandering cannot, and have not bee substantiated by credible, verifiable, non-biased sources. Any attempts to add politically-charged allegations to the lead will be removed. Spartan7W § 22:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
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