Talk:Olathe, Kansas
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Education
editI've changed the education section slightly, linking to the Olathe School District article I've just created, which I'm sure could still use some work. I also linked the high schools to their respective articles, but two of them have no associated article, so it'd be great if someone could create those. -Chickencha 04:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Climate table
editIt's cool that its been added, but it's waaay too big. Can't we make it any smaller? huh
untitled
editGeorge Washington Carver... Look at his entry. Not born in Olathe. That's what native means. He started a laundry here, not his life. And that Sproles guy. Just went to North. Not even born in the metro area. Sharprs 18:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I disagree, Rob- I'd consider myself an Olathe native, despite having moved there at 3 and moved out in my 20s. I mean, we're counting Manute Bol here, right? mausmausmausmaus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.124.49.3 (talk) 00:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Pronunciation
editHow do you pronounce "Olathe"? Can someone add that? Much thanks F15x28 03:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Just found the answer to my own question :-) F15x28 03:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Out of curiousity, does anyone know where the name CAME from? --feba 05:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- From the article: Olathe was founded by Dr. John T. Barton in the Spring of 1857. He rode to the center of Johnson County, Kansas and staked two quarter sections of land as the town site. He later described his ride to friends. "..[T]he prairie was covered with verbena and other wild flowers. I kept thinking the land was beautiful and that I should name the town Beautiful." Purportedly, Dr. Barton asked a Shawnee interpreter how to say "Beautiful" in his native language. The interpreter responded, "Olathe". Stardust8212 13:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- Ah-duh, lol. --feba 03:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
- From the article: Olathe was founded by Dr. John T. Barton in the Spring of 1857. He rode to the center of Johnson County, Kansas and staked two quarter sections of land as the town site. He later described his ride to friends. "..[T]he prairie was covered with verbena and other wild flowers. I kept thinking the land was beautiful and that I should name the town Beautiful." Purportedly, Dr. Barton asked a Shawnee interpreter how to say "Beautiful" in his native language. The interpreter responded, "Olathe". Stardust8212 13:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- Out of curiousity, does anyone know where the name CAME from? --feba 05:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Notable residents
editDue to the history of this page, and the edit war that's gone on between numerous Wikipedians and User:64.151.18.239, I'm starting to think that user User:64.151.18.239 actually is Matt Scott, 610 Sports Host of "College Sports Saturday", since he's insisting that it be on the page. In earlier edits, it said that Matt Scott is actually a resident of KC anyway. IMO, the host of a one hour AM sports show really doesn't seem notable enough to mention here. --Hobbes747 16:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Who are you people to determine who and who isn't notable? Some of us feel he is notable, and that's enough for Wikipedia. Not everyone has to agree. Johnny Dare isn't some ridiculous famous person either. Stevie Case? Please. But I don't mess with other peoples notable residents because I don't agree with it. Back off!!!! I think this is a huge accomplishment for Matt, and as a friend, I will continue to put him in there.
- Please don't edit what I post on talk pages. And please sign your edit by using the button that has cursive on it.
- I've never heard of the guy. That's not notable to me. The host of a one hour college sports talk show on Sunday morning AM radio doesn't seem noteworthy. Glad you're proud of your friend, but that's not reason enough to put it in Wikipedia. Your entry keeps getting removed because it's spam and promotion. It's clear that one person keeps adding him over and over, while multiple people keep removing it.
- On the other hand, most KCians know who Johnny Dare is, at the very least as that insurance commercial guy. And thanks for mentioning that Stevie Case had been removed; I'm putting it back. She has an article and is very well known. --Hobbes747 16:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Has this become one of those stale edit wars between some guy with a semi-dynamic IP in Olathe, and a bunch of other editors? Matt Scott is NOT notable, certainly not to the degree that his existence deserves mention in an article which is supposed to provide a basic description of the city... (ESkog)(Talk) 22:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Sister Cities
editWe also have a sister city in Japan, which is where the sakura trees along 135th (in a park near K-7) are from. Anyone know what it is? --feba 05:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- I did a quick Google search and found a pdf file talking about Olathe's sister cites. The city of Maebashi, Japan was listed among them. [1] I've been wanting to know this for some time myself. I'll add it to the list of sister cites.--Renegade Replicant 02:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Notable residents redux
editThis continues unabated, at the steady clip of 1-2 per day, from a new IP but the song's the same. As I posted on this user's talk page:
- We don't list Gary Lezak, Katie Horner, Larry Moore, Kevin Kietzman, or other similar local personalities as "notable" residents because they aren't notable. Matt Scott is, at best, a peer of theirs, and in my opinion probably less notable than those above. How many people in Olathe know who Matt is, compared to those other four above?
As far as I can gather, the consensus is that a local radio host is not a notable person. I contend that AFD would soundly delete an article on Matt Scott, so notability as defined in Wikipedia is not met. (ESkog)(Talk) 22:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- I have removed Mario Chalmers from the list. Whilst he attended KU, I can find nothing to indicate that he ever resided in Olathe.Mk5384 (talk) 21:58, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
RfC
editI have started a Request for Comment regarding the notability of Matt Scott, since there is not a lot of discussion taking place on this page. My view, as above, is that a local radio host is not a "notable resident" and does not warrant mention. I welcome any other commentary and opinions here. (ESkog)(Talk) 14:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC) So Johnny Dare (a local talk show host) is worthy of this "holy ground", but Matt Scott (a local talk show host) is not? Could you please define notable for us? And what about Stevie Case? How is she more notable than Matt Scott? To my knowledge she beat a video game. You internet elitists need to get out of your mother's basement and stop taking yourselves so seriously. Having a local talk show is notable, that is why Johnny Dare is listed here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.237.99.208 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC) So Johnny Dare (a local talk show host) is worthy of this "holy ground", but Matt Scott (a local talk show host) is not? Could you please define notable for us? And what about Stevie Case? How is she more notable than Matt Scott? To my knowledge she beat a video game. You internet elitists need to get out of your mother's basement and stop taking yourselves so seriously. Having a local talk show is notable, that is why Johnny Dare is listed here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.237.99.208 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC{{{3}}})
- My line in the sand for inclusion on a list such as this is whether the individual is notable enough for his or her own article. I agree that both Dare and Case have somewhat flimsy cases, but the current consensus seems to be that their articles should continue to exist. If you feel they shouldn't, take it to Articles for Deletion. (ESkog)(Talk) 17:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- Like ESkog above, I'm not really in favor of adding a notable resident unless they have an article (or somebody can make a worthwhile one). --Merovingian ※ Talk 00:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Darren Sproles
editFrom what I've seen, Sproles is hailed as a great citizen of Kansas and Olathe. He was voted the #1 Athelete from Olathe and his brother still attends Olathe North. I compare him to Dwight Eisenhower, who was also born in another state, but is cosidered as being "from" Kansas, and his presidential library is in Abeline, Kansas, where he grew up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LinuxBov (talk • contribs) 19:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Matt Scott
editBy the way, Who is Matt Scott??
Bov 19:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Old Settlers
editsomeone should put a section on the annual Od Settlers Parade in downtown Olathe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LinuxBov (talk • contribs) 19:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Unclear History Suggestion
editIn the 19th century sub-section of the History section, the word "probably" is used quite often. I'm not sure if the sources used by the author were uncertain, or if it is just speculation. Maybe another source could be found to corroborate these statements.
Thanks!
Wilster.clark (talk) 20:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, I've long forgotten my wikipedia password, but the skeleton of the Olathe KS article here still appears to be an edited-down version of a school paper I wrote in the late 90s and then contributed (with some updates) sometime prior to 2005. I check in now and then to see if anyone's managed to back up my [citations needed], since the original sources are lost to the fact that I haven't held them in my memory for two decades, lol- I might be able to shed some faint light. Research for this paper was conducted mostly at the Olathe Public Library, with some information coming from the then-brand-new city website (snapshot may not be the exact one; I cannot recall exactly when this paper was written). A lot of it is just stuff you're taught from growing up here, that Dr Barton founded it, that he asked a native how to say 'beautiful', that Mahaffie House was a popular trail stop. I cannot recall the provenance of the quote containing 'verbena and wildflowers', except that it's where I learned the word 'verbena', and that I copied it from a book, possibly a Kansas history textbook.
- The section on the 1980s relies on interviews with long-time residents who grew up here in the mid-century; teachers at my school, mostly, who recounted that it was a pretty typical small, backwaterish Kansas town until the interstate boom of the 60s-80s- this is borne out in the development patterns, but it would be nice to have more solid citations than what I came to the table with.
- The word 'probably' doesn't occur in my original dialup-era contribution- however, it does make assertions pretty boldly, and my speculation is that later editors sought to temper the uncited but confident language of a high schooler's history project. It's super weird and cool to see something grow in the medium I laid down- the assignment was for a PowerPoint presentation, but I convinced my teacher to let me flex my then-new HTML skills and make a newfangled 'web site' that really more resembled a tourism promotion than an academic paper, haha.
- Cheers
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Hubbard House, et al
editI'm struggling with the recent article addition of the demolition of the Hubbard House. The paragraph seems to have a bit of a slanted POV. Unless opposed, I think it should be removed as I don't see its relevance and notability in the bigger picture of the article. I'd be up for its inclusion if someone was willing to work it into a bigger picture paragraph, incorporating the the new courthouse and proposed downtown development (for example). BarkeepChat 14:54, 27 March 2018 (UTC)