Talk:Old 100th

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At the end of the Lyrics section, the sentence, "The hymn All People Than On Earth Do Dwell, a paraphrasing of Psalm 117 by Isaac Watts ...", appears to be inaccurate (as well as containing a minor misspelling). In this very article, All People That On Earth Do Dwell is identified as a paraphrase of Psalm 100, attributed to William Kethe. (And it is common knowledge that All People is based on Psalm 100. Even a cursory reading of the hymn and Psalm bear this out.) Perhaps a different hymn by Watts, paraphrasing Psalm 117 is meant. Earlier versions of this article had Praise to God by Watts here instead of All People ...

I don't know the correct substitute, so I won't make the edit, but it seems this sentence must be mistaken. I am, however tempted to just strike the sentence, since, in it's current form, it appears it must be inaccurate.

Sense

Wondering if anyone else sees the problem with this sentence. Am unsure – is there a word or clause missing?

The story ends when the protagonist, one of a number of intelligent and evolving animals who seek to emulate Humanity's example, after being forced into committing a violent act which is against her ethical code.

Is the missing word "suicides" for example, or "dies" or "fails"? or even, "falls from grace". Manytexts (talk) 00:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Old Hundred

Besides being a lemma which redirects here - which is in itself reason enough to mention it as an alternative in the article - the variant of "Old Hundred" seems to be not simply a wrong wording but rather a quite common one. Actually I'm inclined to demand proof that "Old Hundredth" should remain the preferred lemma for the article. Let me put forward my case for "Old Hundred": Exhibit A: Mark Twain, Tom Sawyer, Chapter XVII, last paragraphs. Exhibit B: Alistair Horne "The Fall of Paris, ...", Chapter 3, directly after the Capitulation at Sedan.
(Funny that I should have been reading just those two completely unrelated books back to back, without ever before having heard of "Old Hundred(th)" in any way.)
(Apologies for my writing style, but if it weren't so late at night, and I weren't under the influence of a copious amount of Rhum Agricole de Martinique, I might have had more control over my language, and might even have been bothered to write up a proper reference or two. :-D )
--BjKa (talk) 00:14, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Why 'Old'?

Is it older than other hymns? I had thought it was number 100 in an older hymnal, but looks like not. Puzzling. 86.148.54.169 (talk) 12:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Numerous different tunes have been used for singing Psalm 100, over many years in many places. At the time when this tune began to be called "Old 100th", it was apparently "obvious" (ha!) to the people who gave it that name, that "everyone" (ha!) would know what "Old 100th" meant, because "everyone" knew this old tune.

In other words, through various accidents of history and printing, a tune-name that was understood by a few people in a small area at a certain time has become fossilized as *the* name of that tune permanently and everywhere.

If you remember that the name is a fossil, rather than trying to get it to make sense in a modern context, that will probably help. TooManyFingers (talk) 07:06, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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Old Hundredth story

Maybe an idea to link Old Hundredth a well-known story by Brian Aldiss Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 21:57, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I have a general objection to "popular culture" sections when it's only a passing mention such as this (or a list of "x recorded this but there is nothing significant to say about it" - in the rare few cases such a listing is worthy of mention, it both a) noted in reliable sources and b) easy to include in normal prose. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 11:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

If you mean Old_Hundredth_(short_story) it is already linked William M. Connolley (talk) 13:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

The proper way to do this is by cross-reference hatnotes to both articles. I have just done this, and removed the inappropriate WP:COATRACK of the short story that had been in this hymn article. Feline Hymnic (talk) 13:52, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Other meanings

The term seems to have been used as the name of a club or even brothel in London in the 1920s, cf. Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited. Matthias — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:A741:C700:717F:D40D:4384:AF48 (talk) 08:41, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Probably not worthy of mention here, unless the club/brothel is itself notable. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:05, 21 June 2020 (UTC)