Talk:Olecko

Following page history has been merged from Oletzko County through a copy/paste action. Olecko page already existed with contents and therefore Oletzko County page history could not be moved with it.

(cur) (last) . . m 23:38, 9 May 2004 . . Dieter Simon (Redirected to Olecko) (cur) (last) . . 23:39, 15 Apr 2004 . . Dieter Simon (This article should be merged with Olecko) (cur) (last) . . 02:39, 15 Apr 2004 . . Cyrius (adding VfD notice) (cur) (last) . . m 07:49, 9 Apr 2004 . . RedWolf (dab Polish) (cur) (last) . . m 02:48, 7 Apr 2004 . . Halibutt (cur) (last) . . 14:33, 5 Apr 2004 . . Cautious (cur) (last) . . 14:32, 5 Apr 2004 . . Cautious

--Dieter Simon 01:20, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

Hi, User: 217.93.94.107 I agree with you and have no quarrels with what you are saying, but think you ought to take it up with User: Cautious. He was the one who queried my previous entries in the article. See the following User:Talk entrie under my user page which I have copied over to make it plainer:

Please be advised, that Margrabova was the first city located in the Oletzko County and is not identical with Oletzko. Only what happenned, is that the capital of the County was moved to the Margrabova, after renaming it to Treuburg.Cautious 07:11, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC) See http://www.literad.de/regional/treuburg.html Cautious 07:15, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

You are partly right. There were 2 cities: Marggrabova and Oleztko, not so far from each other. Marggrabova was renamed Treuburg in 1928. I don't know, when both cities were united. Cautious 07:02, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

And your own entry follows:

As I know, there was (and is) only one city. It beared the names Marggrabowa, Treuburg and Olecko over the times. Oletzko was a hunting lodge as well as a castle adjacent to the city, separated only by a tiny river. The name of the castle laterly was extended to the surrounding area, the district and, to complete the confusion, even to Marggrabowa's railway and postal station! It is possible that the City of Marggrabowa and Oletzko-the-castle originally have been administratively separated. But the castle wasn't a city itself. 217.93.94.107 23:53, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

As I say, I agree with you but it is not me you should query this with. Dieter Simon 01:15, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"In 1920, a plebiscite was held in the area by the League of Nations on remaining in East Prussia or affiliation with the recreated state of Poland. After an overwhelming result of 28,625 pro-German votes against 2 pro-Polish, the county remained with Germany."

Any serious source?--Witkacy 23:16, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Witkacy, there are at least two Polish sources in Polish, and the same website has also created a site in English, that is apart from those mirror sites which follow the Wikipedia article. It looks pretty substantiated, they are all talking about "a plebiscite in Olecko in 1920 was a catastrophic failure", etc. Also state "only two votes were given for Poland".

See: http://www.um.olecko.pl/aole.htm, see also

http://www.lo.olecko.pl/olec/olecko.htm and

http://olecko.com/historia.htm

There may well be more, but most websites are in Polish. I think it looks genuine. Dieter Simon 22:01, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Aleckas

The name Aleckas indeed seems only to exist as surname, not as name of the town of Olecko, as per Google and Yahoo Search. Have reverted, unless someone can produce some proof to the Lithuanian town name. Dieter Simon 01:23, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Apparently sometimes the town is named Oleckas in Lithuanian (that is Oleck- root and generic Lithuanian suffix -as), but Olecko seems to be much, much more popular in Lithuania. Halibutt 15:08, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks, Halibutt. Dieter Simon 22:42, 31 May 2005 (UTC)