Talk:Oleo strut

Move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. And sometime ago, there was an unexplained blanking of the coffee house. So in moving thing around, I restored that article. If it is deemed not notable, it should go through the deletion process. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:11, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

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Oleo strut (aircraft suspension) → Oleo strut – Looks like there was a somewhat famous coffee house named the Oleo Strut, (described for example at "Sir! No Sir!"), but that was named after the aircraft suspension and has no article, at least at the moment. So no reason for the disambiguation parenthesis and disambiguation page. (When somebody writes Oleo Strut (restaurant), a hat note at the shock absorber's page would still be enough.) ospalh (talk) 12:40, 12 November 2011 (UTC), 12:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

mechanical or cutaway drawing

A picture is worth a thousand words. How about a mechanical drawing? How does it actually work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.20.2.63 (talk) 01:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.2

A simple form of oleo strut (no swinging arm) was applied to each of the two legs of this (1914) aircraft. It was part of a fixed undercarriage, and simply "dropped down" when the F.E.2 was in flight - absorbing the shocks when it landed. It is possible that this undercarriage does not fit the definition of "oleo strut" in the article - but it did use oil-filled shock absorbers, and was called an "oleo undercarriage" at the time - so we may in this case have a terminological problem! In any case I have change THIS article in the meantime. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 23:40, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Since I feel I'm being accused of providing false sources by user:Wildkatzen I'll put the verbatim quote here:
[...] the most striking thing about this aeroplane [...] was its famous 'oleo' undercart. I suppose this was the first time that telescopic oil buffers had ever been used to absorb landing shocks. /ref/Lewis, Cecil, Farewell to Wings. Temple Press, 1964, page 18, chapter "F.E. 2b".//ref/
I will stand by the opinion that this supports my sentence of
One of the first serially produced airplanes to use an oleo strut was the Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.2 of 1914.
I suppose it hinges on of whether you accept this - only kind of oleo undercarriage there was at the time - as an "oleo strut", or if you want to discount it as a forerunner to the real thing(TM).
After reading W.E. Johns and C. Lewis I was thinking of adding something about the former usage of the term "sideslip" to the sideslip article, but after this experience I'll keep well clear.
--BjKa (talk) 20:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Facts precede personal opinions BjKa, and Cpt. Lewis Cecil suppose that it was the first time. As previously mentioned, several aviation pioneers designed and tested these elementary engineered shock absorbing undercarriages. Robert Esnault-Pelterie flew to Rheims in 1909 with his designed train d'atterrissage oléopneumatique in 1907. Hiram Maxim designed a skid undercarriage that incorporated a large telescopic oleo-damper with springs, (just as Farman) on his Pixie Ilia in 1909. See Flight, 1910. However, Farman's undercarriage can neither be described as a forerunner to the real thing. There's a clear preference and editorial bias shared by both of you. See Soundofmusicals edit. Wildkatzen (talk) 22:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Historian Gérard Hartmann, states: Le monoplan R.E.P. 1 est doté d’un train d’atterrissage oléopneumatique, encore une innovation qui sera reprise par d’autres. Wildkatzen (talk) 11:08, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

References

Scope of article: what is an "oleo strut"?

There is a discussion about the scope and quality of this article at Talk:Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.2#Oleo struts. Contributions would be welcome. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:22, 16 July 2018 (UTC)