Talk:Olga Ehrenhaft-Steindler
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A fact from Olga Ehrenhaft-Steindler appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 May 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 05:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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- ... that Olga Ehrenhaft-Steindler was the first woman to earn a physics doctorate at the University of Vienna? Source: [1], [2] (both in German)
Created by Anypodetos (talk). Self-nominated at 15:50, 22 April 2022 (UTC).
- I like the hook but would it be possible to propose alternative hooks? In the past there were concerns made on DYK about hooks solely about "first woman to do X". I would approve the current hook as-is but I'm not sure if other editors would agree; thus, just to be on the safe side I'd ask if there are possible alternatives. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1
... that Olga Ehrenhaft-Steindler went to school in Vienna but, being a woman, could not take her final exams in Austria – so she took them in Prague?[3] (in German) - ALT2
... that Olga Ehrenhaft-Steindler co-founded the first Viennese commercial academy for girls?[4] (in German)
- ALT1
- Thank you. This is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting life on fine sources, and I can read the German, no copyvio obvious. Why no image? While I agree that the original hook would be a bit bland, I strike ALT1 as true for many girls, and without any hint at doctorate and physics, which some would still think is not for girls. How about combining the original and ALT2, Anypodetos? No link to Vienna please (and other current countries and capitals). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- The current image in the article is CC BY-NC-SA [5], and this one doesn't seem to have a copyright notice at all. So I think neither can be displayed on the main page (although I'd love to be mistaken), and I didn't find any other images of her.
- ALT3 ... that Olga Ehrenhaft-Steindler, the first woman to earn a physics doctorate at the University of Vienna, co-founded the first Viennese commercial academy for girls?
- ALT4 ... that Olga Ehrenhaft-Steindler, after earning a physics doctorate in 1903, co-founded the first Viennese commercial academy for girls?
- Thank you, both fine (I simplified ALT3)! I wonder how any image of a woman who died in 1933 can be under copyright. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Wouldn't the photographer have to have died 70+ years ago? Seems likely but not necessary even though she looks rather young in the photo. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 14:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, both fine (I simplified ALT3)! I wonder how any image of a woman who died in 1933 can be under copyright. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- The current image in the article is CC BY-NC-SA [5], and this one doesn't seem to have a copyright notice at all. So I think neither can be displayed on the main page (although I'd love to be mistaken), and I didn't find any other images of her.
- Interesting life on fine sources, and I can read the German, no copyvio obvious. Why no image? While I agree that the original hook would be a bit bland, I strike ALT1 as true for many girls, and without any hint at doctorate and physics, which some would still think is not for girls. How about combining the original and ALT2, Anypodetos? No link to Vienna please (and other current countries and capitals). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)