Talk:Olga Taratuta/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sawyer-mcdonell (talk · contribs) 19:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

@Grnrchst Hi! I plan on reviewing this article within the next 2 days. Seems like a fascinating topic! Ping me if you have any questions :) sawyer * he/they * talk 03:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

@Sawyer-mcdonell: Thanks for taking this on! I have responded to all your comments and questions. Let me know if there's more that I need to do. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 10:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Awesome! I'm going to continue reviewing today (there are a few criteria I haven't looked at yet) & hopefully get everything sorted. It is indeed a fascinating topic. :) sawyer * he/they * talk 20:18, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Assessment

Well-written

• the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct  Passed
  •  Question: On 17 December 1905, Taratuta's cell carried out a bomb attack against the Libman Café. Why was the Libman Café targeted?
    • Added motive. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  •  Question: During the 1905 Russian Revolution, Taratuta and other members of the anarchist-communist group joined a militant organization known as the Black Banner, which launched out a campaign of "motiveless terror" against Russian institutions and officials. Is "motiveless terror" a self-description by the group of their own activities? Or an external description? The cited sources imply the former, and I think this could be clarified.
    • Clarified. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  •  Comment: I'm seeing some discrepancy in spelling - Olga vs Olha, Lukyanivska vs Lukianivska, etc. I realize this is likely a result of the talk page POV scuffle back in June, so I won't change it myself, but it should be made consistent. A fresh talk page discussion is probably a good idea here, just to cover the CTOP bases.
    • I've made the spelling of Lukyanivska consistent. As for the use of "Olha", every single remaining use in the body is in cases where using "Taratuta" or the pronoun "she" wouldn't make sense and every single case of it is cited to Savchenko 2021, who uses the transliteration "Olha", not "Olga". I have no interest in reopening a talk page discussion on this, as the first one was a very distressing process for me; I don't want to have accusations of bad faith and threats thrown at me all over again just for spelling something the way my principle source does... --Grnrchst (talk) 10:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

      Totally understandable; I appreciate the clarification. sawyer * he/they * talk 20:22, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

• it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation  Passed

Verifiable with no original research

• it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline  Passed
• reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose)  Passed
  •  Comment: Taratuta's birth date is in the infobox, but not mentioned or cited in the body
    • This is because sources disagree on her date of birth. Savchenko gives her year of birth as 1874, Dubovik gives it as 1876, while Avrich says she was "about 35 years of age" at the time of her trial. I have added an "either 1874 or 1876", complete with sources, in order to demonstrate this. I'm not sure where the Russian Wikipedia article got the date 21 January from, it's not in any of the sources it cites. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

      Works for me - I removed the 21 January date from the infobox just so the article is consistent. sawyer * he/they * talk 20:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment: Spot-checking of the sources to follow
  • Spot-checking (using Google translate for the Savchenko source) brought up nothing of concern - everything matches, and the sources all seem very reliable.
• it contains no original research  Passed
• it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism  Passed
  •  Comment: Earwig brought nothing up

Broad in its coverage

• it addresses the main aspects of the topic  Passed
  •  Comment: The final quote by Savchenko is great - it makes me think a "legacy" section could be created
    • I'd considered it, but none of the sources really depict a lasting legacy, beyond biographical information and eulogies/obituaries. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

      Good to know - then I think it's probably good as-is. sawyer * he/they * talk 20:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

• it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style)  Passed

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each  Passed

•  Comment: I was somewhat worried about the use of the word "terrorism" & the like, but the sources use it pretty consistently and it seems like Taratuta's circle self-identified with "terrorism" to some extent.
  • This is indeed the case. Not only are sources not shy about the term, but Taratuta wasn't either. Many militant anarchist of the fin de siecle period were proud of calling themselves terrorists. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute  Passed

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio

• media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content  Passed
• media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions  Passed
  •  Comment: The infobox image could do with a caption
    • Added caption. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:32, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.