Talk:Olinguito
![]() | This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | A news item involving Olinguito was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 15 August 2013. | ![]() |
![]() | This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.
Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. | Reporting errors |
Olinguitos are olingos, according to their discoverers
editThe language used in the ZooKeys article indicates that the authors consider the olinguito to be a species of olingo, a new kind of olingo, one of four olingo species. But this wiki article is worded as if it doesn't consider olinguitos to be olingos. --Cam (talk) 13:30, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- I agree, to an extent. The olinguito is an olingo: it's of the same genus. On the other hand, it's convenient to talk about the olingos as a shorthand for all the other members of the same genus. I tried changing "olingos" to "other olingos" in the article, but it didn't read any better. Bondegezou (talk) 13:47, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- I clarified the language at several places within the article according to the input from Cam. Hopefully this meets expectations. Nevertheless, this is a somewhat methodologically-challenging issue, prompting addition of a tentative, unappealingly technological sentence that will need further tweeking. FeatherPluma (talk) 06:13, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Using common and binomial names interchangeably will always cause issues like this. Perhaps the lead paragraph could stress that the olinguito is an olingo with "is a mammal of the olingo genus Bassaricyon. Ir d'hore arachkallez (talk) 11:11, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- I clarified the language at several places within the article according to the input from Cam. Hopefully this meets expectations. Nevertheless, this is a somewhat methodologically-challenging issue, prompting addition of a tentative, unappealingly technological sentence that will need further tweeking. FeatherPluma (talk) 06:13, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
corrections reverted
editAn editor is reverting simple corretions: The pronunciation is garbled, and the animal is not Spanish. I've tagged the article rather than arguing about it. — kwami (talk) 14:45, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- A citation is given for the pronunciation (unfortunately, it's a dead link, so that does need fixing). I am unclear why kwami thinks it is "garbled". The article does not claim the animal is Spanish: it explains that its name is derived using the Spanish language. Both of kwami's tags seem unhelpful to me, but I've already reverted kwami 3 times today and it would not be appropriate for me to do so again. Bondegezou (talk) 14:52, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Assuming the IPA correctly follows the citation, the first "o" in "olinguito" is not pronounced like it is in "olingo", which is a bit odd. But the respelling is gibberish, as you'd know if you checked the key: there is no such vowel as "ih" or "oe". The respelling does not match the IPA, so one of them is wrong. The lead is also about the word "olinguito" rather than about the animal, but the word is not in quotation marks and in any case the article is about the animal, so the lead violates WP:DICT. When read quickly, it also sounds like "Bassaricyon neblina" is Spanish for "little olingo". These are simple fixes, and should not be controversial. — kwami (talk) 15:02, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- It would have been helpful if you had given that reasoning sooner, as per WP:BRD. I do not see the problems you suggest with the article being "read quickly", nor the violation with WP:DICT. Hopefully others can wade in with their views.
- With the pronunciation, we should follow reliable sources. I'll see if I can find an archived version of the dead link given as a starting point. Bondegezou (talk) 15:15, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Converting the pronunciation given in the source into either wiki respell or IPA is acceptable. — Lfdder (talk) 15:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, Lfdder. Bondegezou (talk) 15:30, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Converting the pronunciation given in the source into either wiki respell or IPA is acceptable. — Lfdder (talk) 15:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Assuming the IPA correctly follows the citation, the first "o" in "olinguito" is not pronounced like it is in "olingo", which is a bit odd. But the respelling is gibberish, as you'd know if you checked the key: there is no such vowel as "ih" or "oe". The respelling does not match the IPA, so one of them is wrong. The lead is also about the word "olinguito" rather than about the animal, but the word is not in quotation marks and in any case the article is about the animal, so the lead violates WP:DICT. When read quickly, it also sounds like "Bassaricyon neblina" is Spanish for "little olingo". These are simple fixes, and should not be controversial. — kwami (talk) 15:02, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
The animal is an omnivorous frugivore
editIt is carnivorous according to the following link (accessed 5/22/14):
http://www.voanews.com/content/new-species-identified-in-2014/1920625.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gredow (talk • contribs) 21:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
No, it is a member of the Order Carnivora. That does not make it carnivorous. Bears are members of the same order, and some of them hardly eat meat at all.Sumanuil (talk) 06:53, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Closely related?
editArticles about species should really stay away from subjective terms like "closely related". The article claims that the olinguito and the kinkajou are not closely related. They are in the same family. There is no evolutionary basis for what makes two species closely related. It would be correct to say that olinguitos are more closely related to the other olingoes than to kinkajous. Kdb1965 (talk) 00:34, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Bisc 350 Suggestions
editHey, Thomas. Your addition of conservation section is a good idea, and you did a good job of adding new information to the already existing sections. A suggestion would be to talk more about the reproduction of Olinguitos, such their mating system, prenatal care, etc.Vv dng (talk) 18:57, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
External links modified
editHello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on Olinguito. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
- Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20140524003729/http://www.esf.edu/top10/08.htm to http://www.esf.edu/top10/08.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 15:45, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Dead link: http://savingspecies.org/2013/spectacular-new-pictures-of-mom-and-baby-olinguito-in-la-mesenia-reserve-conservation-project-colombia/ PeacefulPlanet3 (talk) 14:20, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Article assessment
editNathan Wadlington,
Based on the information found in the article, the Olinguito is truly a new species. There is not a lot of information on the article about the animal indicating thathas not been much research done on the mammal. Although there are a lot of references associated with the article, I do not know if the information on the mammal is correct. Nbwadlington (talk) 14:41, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
"Colombian panda" listed at Redirects for discussion
editAn editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Colombian panda and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 19#Colombian panda until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 17:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)