Talk:Oliver Kuhn/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: MPJ-DK (talk · contribs) 00:38, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Alright I will be picking up the review of this one - both for the Wiki Cup and the GA cup as well.

Side note, I would love some input on a Featured List candidate (Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship) and a Featured Article candidate (CMLL World Heavyweight Championship). I am not asking for Quid pro Quo, but all help is appreciated.  MPJ-US  01:19, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

GA Toolbox

I like to get this checked out first, I have found issues using this that has led to quick fails so it's important this passes muster.

Peer review tool

• Lead - should be three paragraphs for an article this size, especially when going for GA

Copyright violations Tool

• The tool picked up that there was overlap with the quotes, which is natural, but did not show anything else. Y

Disambiguation links

• No issues detected Y

External links

• Reference 9 - the "Montgommery Bell Academy" link is dead.

Well Written

• "defensive player, selected All-Southern" should be "defensive player and was selected All-Southern"
• There are a couple of places where the text uses a parenthesis to add detail to a sentence, such as "won two state football titles (in 1915 as a sub and 1917 as a starter)" should be rewritten without the parenthesis such as "won two state football titles first in 1915 as a sub and then 1917 as a starter" - it just flows better that way. The only time I thin it is okay is in places such as "and a 15–2–3 (.825) record". I won't point out every single instance of this but let me know if you have questions.
• "On the same day Centre upset Harvard," - Not sure why this is included? seems like a side note, not something that has to do with Kuhn?
• "Miraculous because of the treacherous footing."[24]" - A quote by itself? It needs to at least state who is quoted
• No source for the final sentence in the "1921" section
• "goal line" should be "goal-line"

Sources/verifiable

• Reference 11 needs more details added
• Reference 21 is from a book, it needs the appropriate book info added
• Reference 28 needs the date, accessdate etc. added
• Reference 43 seem to require a log in?
• Reference 46 needs appropriate book info added
• 51 needs a log in
• 52 needs a log in
• 51 needs a log in
• 56 needs more data in the citation
• 57 has no data at all
• 58 - more details
• 59 - more details
• 61 - more details
• 63 - more details
• 65 - more details
• 67 - has a title, date and nothing else? also "27 Apr. 1922" should be "April 27, 1922" to be consistent
• 71 is just a date and a newspaper? Not enough to identify it
• 74 - more details

Broad in coverage

• Yes it's got more than his sports career Y

Neutral

• Yes, the words of praise in the article are all quoted and cited. Y

Stable

• Looks to be free of controversies and edit warring

Illustrated / Images

• The tags all look appropriate, although I did notice ones marked as 1921 had a tag that referred to it being published in 1923 or later.

Thank you MPJ. I know nothing about wrestling but I will give those a look over. I've tracked down the images for the "civic leader" and "great shortstop" sources - still left amiss on a page number for the former and a newspaper for the latter. Cake (talk) 07:01, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• @MisterCake: - I have completed the review, and I am pleased to see that work has already begun already. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns about the review. I am going to place this review on hold, basically to signal that the actual review is complete and it's mainly about addressing issues now.  MPJ-US  11:20, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Going to brush these up, but I first want to note the parentheses come from the copy editors guild. Cake (talk) 17:26, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Really? that is a surprise, but I guess that may be more of a personal preference then. I trust you to use your judgement on what to adjust then.  MPJ-US  21:09, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Just dropping in, what's with the conversions of yards to meters? Did the guild do that as well? Seeing as yards are used less as a unit of measurement and more as an aspect of the game, it seems odd to add metric conversions. Not to mention this is primarily an American sport. Lizard (talk) 16:32, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Mister Cake: - I have seen work going on in the last week, but I am not clear if you believe you've addressed all issues listed here etc.? Can you please give me an update? I Just want to be sure you're not just waiting for me to respond without me realizing it.  MPJ-US  00:19, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

I thinj I am MPJ, aside from the sources mentioned (e. g. the 'civic leader' from the Tribune). Yes Lizard, the guild did the meters. Cake (talk) 00:22, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Excellent, then I will give it another read through over the next day or so to see if it's a GA level of if there are any minor tweaks needed.  MPJ-US  01:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Mister Cake: - I think it is all covered now, I am giving it the Good Article stamp of approval, Congratulations.  MPJ-US  00:51, 26 March 2016 (UTC)