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Hi Everyone,
I'm writing this in regards to getting a consensus on Olivia's instrumentals in her infobox: Vocals, Guitar and Piano.
However, Olivia also plays keyboards (High School Musical and Sour promotions) , electric guitar ( Guts Tours), and Ukelele (High School Musicals)
I tried to add: Keyboards, electric guitar on infobox - Instrumentals - @Pamzeis removed them saying, Keyboards and electric guitars are the same with piano and guitar. Acoustic guitar and Electric guitar are not the same, they create different sounds.
Then I added "ukelele" @MPFitz1968 removed saying, Olivia is not using Ukelele (currently). But looking at the biography of other musicians.
Bruno Mars - ( Vocals, guitar, piano, keyboards, drums, bass, ukulele, congas ),
Jack White - ( Vocals, guitar, bass guitar, keyboards, drums)
Billie Eilish - ( Vocals, guitar, piano, ukulele)
Harry Styles - ( Vocals, guitar, piano, dulcimer )
We allow as many instrumentals on other musicians, despite not seeing some of them playing it currently. Why do we limit and put restrictive rules on Olivia instrumentals, but not on other musicians?
I responded to this on my talk page, but the ping apparently didn't go through for whatever reason. Copying what I wrote there here: What I'm trying to do here is avoid the infobox list becoming a WP:COATRACK of all the instruments Rodrigo plays; as instructed at Template:Infobox musical artist, instruments listed in the infobox should be limited to only those that the artist is primarily known for using. The instruments infobox parameter is not intended as a WP:COATRACK for every instrument the subject has ever used. (emphasis in original) I think guitar and piano are warranted for inclusion as Rodrigo commonly uses them to write songs and as accompaniments when playing live, but I wouldn't say that's the case for the electric guitar or the keyboard. I believe she's only used the electric guitar when playing "Obsessed" and the keyboard as a substitute for a piano. Also, I don't think there are any fundamental differences between the way she uses the keyboard vs the piano (other than maybe the pedals), so I'd be inclined not to list it. We want to list the instruments Rodrigo uses commonly and has been recognised for. I would take that as having them being noted in reliable sources. I searched for "Olivia Rodrigo playing ukulele" on Google and the only two things I can find are an ET article saying she played it in a promo for HSMTMTS and a video of "I Think I Kinda You Know". Compare that to a search for "Olivia Rodrigo playing piano", far more results come up, including articles in reputable sources such as Billboard and Rolling Stone. Pamzeis (talk) 14:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 22:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)