Talk:One to One (TV series)
Latest comment: 5 years ago by B dash in topic Requested move 19 October 2018
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Requested move 19 October 2018
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: No consensus on this move (closed by non-admin page mover). B dash (talk) 13:28, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
One to One (TV series) → One to One (talk show) – Note – possible alternative title proposal: One to One (TV programme). Doing this one as a requested move proposal to see if others think this is a "talk show" akin to something like Larry King Live or Charlie Rose (talk show), or is more appropriately a "TV programme", as per WP:NCTV. (Note: This appears to be the only TV show article with this title, as per One-to-one.) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:08, 19 October 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Flooded with them hundreds 09:53, 1 November 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. SITH (talk) 12:22, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - the words "talk show" don't appear in the article, nor is it in any talk show categories. It also seems to be organized into series (seasons) whereas programmes are usually something like year-round shows or such. So unless better evidence is presented, I think we should use the current title. No objection to any of the above being used as redirects though. -- Netoholic @ 18:08, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- And, of course, you're wrong – each episode is self-contained, so there is no "series" nature at all – why are you unable to understand this concept?! No matter what, it belongs at "TV programme", not "TV series". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:12, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: I'm having a hard time tracking down secondary sourcing for this one, period. So I'm unable to determine if it was ever referred to as a "talk show" (or even an "interview show") or not. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:29, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Series television:
These shows are typically aired only part of the year, and are produced as a set or cycle of episodes usually called a "season" or a "series".
- by which this article clearly qualifies, so (TV series) is the better disambiguator. And please stop being insulting with the "why are you unable to understand this concept?!" language. -- Netoholic @ 18:43, 19 October 2018 (UTC)- Way to, once again, ignore the important part:
"Episodic, serial, or limited series television shows are made of episodes which may relate part of an unfolding story, feature recurring settings or characters, or express a unifying narrative theme."
None of which applies to an "interview show" like this one in which each episode is a self-contained unit. Again, "TV programme" is correct here, even if "talk show" cannot be verified. So, no, the proposal is correct. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:04, 19 October 2018 (UTC)- The
unifying narrative theme
is the one-on-one interview style. Much like how a documentary or reality series might have its own unifying narrative theme, and still be called a series because it is produced in discreet limited runs of episodes, rather than being on-going. -- Netoholic @ 21:10, 2 November 2018 (UTC)- "Documentary" TV shows are also "TV programs" – shows like 60 Minutes and Cops (see that RM for support for this) are not "TV series". It's ridiculous to claim otherwise, or we should just get rid of "TV program" as disambiguation, as per your definition everything is a "TV series". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:25, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- The
- Way to, once again, ignore the important part:
- Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Series television:
- Note: I'm having a hard time tracking down secondary sourcing for this one, period. So I'm unable to determine if it was ever referred to as a "talk show" (or even an "interview show") or not. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:29, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- Support TV
programprogramme - here is an episode from 2007. It seems to be the same format as 60 Minutes (reference here). While it doesn't have a disambiguator, the article lead calls a TV program. --Gonnym (talk) 06:45, 21 October 2018 (UTC)- @Gonnym: I assume you mean "support TV programme"? – Ireland also uses the "Commonwealth" spelling for "programme"... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:56, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes of course (because local spelling is so important /sigh) --Gonnym (talk) 16:00, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: I assume you mean "support TV programme"? – Ireland also uses the "Commonwealth" spelling for "programme"... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:56, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
- Relisting note: still no consensus as to talk show / program, so relisting. SITH (talk) 12:22, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Just to quote from WP:NCTV again, to reiterate that this TV show is in no way a "TV series" –
"Non-series television shows tend to be produced on either an on-going basis (airing daily or weekly) or as a one-time event. Each episode of an on-going show usually is self-contained with little connection to other episodes, other than title, format, hosts, and other on-air personalities. These shows generally lack on-going narrative or story elements."
That describes this specific TV show to a T. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:53, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
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