Talk:Operation Elster
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Old newsreel
editFBI film footage taken of Colepaugh and Gimpel is contained in an (unfortunately licensed) old newsreel from 1945. A cool bit of WP:OR: at timestamp 01:42:39 in the newsreel the radio they were captured with is visible. It is an exact match for a 1935 General Electric model A-83, seen here, which corroborates their story of buying a used broadcast radio with a shortwave band on it. - LuckyLouie (talk) 17:19, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Question about sentencing
editIf Colepaugh betrayed Gimpel, then why did he serve the longer sentence? That seems odd, would be good if the article explained that.. Mujinga (talk) 03:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- AFAIK, the sources don’t discuss that aspect. I could guess that someone who betrayed their own country was treated harsher than an enemy combatant who was captured performing their duty. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Actually in reviewing the text and sources, I see that both were tried and sentenced to death, so no disparity there. The death sentences were later commuted, and both were paroled within 5 years of each other. Parole decisions are not part of criminal sentencing, they are made by a board of people appointed to review prisoners records and make evaluations and recommendations. - LuckyLouie (talk) 22:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Page move
editThis page was moved without discussion in March 2015, with the edit summary it's either "Unternehmen Elster" or "Operation Magpie".
On the contrary, the format "Operation Elster" is entirely normal in English: it is common for writers to refer to foreign military operations by their native name while using the English term 'Operation' (eg. Operation Bodenplatte, Operation Gladio, Operation Ten-Go) or by a translation of the non-English name (eg. Operation Sealion). It is not at all usual to use a non-English term (like unternehmen) when there is a perfectly good equivalent in English, and in this case it is contrary to our requirement to use English and is not consistent with other similar articles.
So it has been moved back (with my thanks) via the WP:RM#Undiscussed Moves facility. Xyl 54 (talk) 13:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Agree, good move, thanks. - LuckyLouie (talk) 12:45, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Failed due to betrayal edit.
editThis has been reverted more than once.
If you wish to add this then add an apprpropriate citation with the additional information and all will be well. Lukewarmbeer (talk) 12:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)