Talk:Operation Ezra and Nehemiah

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The Joint financed the operation only until the end of 1950. The Jewish Agency took over starting January 1951 and thus handled the bulk of the transport. It's also worth noting that every passenger in 1950 was expected to pay 15 Dinars if able. These facts are attested in an official summary dated June 1951 and kept in the Israeli State Archive.

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"This astounding Zionist accomplishment, known as Operation Ezra and Nehemiah (aka Operation Ali Baba), gave a final glorious curtain call to the ancient Babylonian exile~" Hello ? NPOV anyone ? Nobel prize 4 peace 13:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

In this, I agree with you. -- Avi 19:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)== Pogrom caused critical change in Iraqi Jewish identity? ==Reply

I see no citation for "The critical change in Iraqi Jewish identity occurred after the violent ... pogrom against the Jews of Baghdad, on June 1-2, 1941" - and it's questionable indeed. Here is what David Hirst says about it in the "The Gun and the Olive Branch", 2nd Edition 1984, new Foreword 2003, p.286:

"... At first it was the British, rather than local Jews, who bore the brunt of Arab animosity. ... It was not until the mid-thirties, when the troubles of Palestine were reverberating round the world, that Arab Jews began to excite suspicion and resentment. In Iraq these emotions came to a head in 1941 when, in a two-day rampage, the mob killed some 170 to 180 Jews and injured several hundred more. It was terrible. But it was the first pogrom in Iraqi history. Moreover, it occurred at a time of political chaos; the short-lived pro-Nazi revolt of Rashid Ali Kailani was collapsing, and most members of his administration had taken flight as a British expeditionary force arrived at the gates of the city. There was no more such violence. On account of this, and their economic prosperity, the Jews felt a renewed sense of security. ... [Zionists] organized the `Persian underground railway' to smuggle Jews to Israel via Iran. There were occasional clashes between the police and the caravan guides. It was these which prompted the government to legalize Jewish emigration. But, whether by legal or illegal means, very few actually left. As the Chief Rabbi of Iraq, Sassoon Khedduri, explained a few years later: "The Jews - and the Muslims - in Iraq just took it for granted that Judaism is a religion and Iraqi Jews are Iraqis. The Palestine problem was remote and there was no question about the Jews of Iraq following the Arab position [44. Berger, Elmer, Who Knows Better Must Say So, Institute for Palestine Studies, Beirut, p. 30]"

And, while Hirst accepts the standard Zionist position that the pogrom was carried out by local antisemitic elements, at least one other source, an Iraqi Jew on the spot Naeim Giladi, blames the British for it. "Yosef Meir, one of the most prominent activists in the Zionist underground movement in Iraq, known then as Yehoshafat, claims it was the British. Meir, who now works for the Israeli Defense Ministry, argues that, in order to make it appear that the regent was returning as the savior who would reestablish law and order, the British stirred up the riots against the most vulnerable and visible segment in the city, the Jews. And, not surprisingly, the riots ended as soon as the regent’s loyal soldiers entered the capital.[4 Yosef Meir, “Road in the Desert,” Israeli Defense Ministry, p. 36] ... Today there is no doubt in my mind that the anti-Jewish riots of 1941 were orchestrated by the British for geopolitical ends. David Kimche is certainly a man who was in a position to know the truth, and he has spoken publicly about British culpability. Kimche had been with British Intelligence during WW II and with the Mossad after the war. Later he became Director General of Israel's Foreign Ministry, the position he held in 1982 when he addressed a forum at the British Institute for International Affairs in London. In responding to hostile questions about Israel's invasion of Lebanon and the refugee camp massacres in Beirut, Kimche went on the attack, reminding the audience that there was scant concern in the British Foreign Office when British Gurkha units participated in the murder of 500 Jews in the streets of Baghdad in 1941."[1]

I should add that the account of this avowed Zionist "THE FORGOTTEN REFUGEES: the causes of the post-1948 Jewish Exodus from Arab Countries Philip Mendes Latrobe University - Presented at the 14 Jewish Studies Conference Melbourne March 2002" uses the words "shattered" - but that's quite different from "The critical change in Iraqi Jewish identity". Furthermore, he then appears to face both ways on the subject: "Only a minority of Jews were sympathetic to Zionism, although over 5,000 Iraqi Jews migrated to Palestine between 1924 and 1944 ... The security and confidence of Iraqi Jews was shattered by the pro-German military coup of April 1941. The coup leaders were quickly defeated and exiled by a British army occupation, but their departure was followed by a large-scale farhud or pogrom against the Jews of Baghdad. ... However, the new Iraqi Government soon took steps to restore law and order. The leaders of the farhud were jailed or exiled, and some were even executed." PRtalk 12:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

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This article currently tells only the propaganda side of the story. Much of the balancing info (often from the same underlying sources already in this article, just selectively used) is already at Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries#Iraq. Oncenawhile (talk) 23:01, 21 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

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