Talk:Operation Hammer (1997)

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Casualties

Please provide other sources (more than 1) and translate them. One source may be biased, until then casualties should be deleted! (129.21.71.50 (talk) 19:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC))

dead SOURCES of PKK side?

we should add pkks result ,too.not only turks.pkk said 150 fighters dead and 500 turks dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.53.188.101 (talk) 08:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the operation

According to sources operation did not succeed. If you change the result to the "Decisive Turkish victory", please provide a reliable source.

List of sources that support the fact that operation didn't succeed:
Ferakp (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I would like to see you using reliable sources as well. Those operations are from the turkish perspective and have been descibed as succesful. There are almost no pkk sources on this and this there is not much to do about that. If you have your own pkk source. Then show it here on the talk page. Gala19000 (talk) 17:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

You already see my sources, they are independent. Not PKK or Turkish side sources. You claim it is Decisive Turkish victory but you don't use any sources. Ferakp (talk) 17:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

The funny thing is that you didn't have any source for your first edit as well. This operation has been succesfuly done by the TAF and this has been resulted here on Wiki as turkish victory. Nothing wrong about that. The pkk on the other hand unlike operation sun in wich they claimed victory, they didn't claim anything for this operation. Gala19000 (talk) 18:04, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

My first edit was neutral, I said no result, didn't said failed or PKK victory. I had source for my edits already in the article so I didn't use it to avoid ref bomb. It doesn't matter was it successful or not, you need a source to confirm it. Readers don't know history like you, so provide source so you can convince them.Ferakp (talk) 18:09, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Thats interesting, the part about 'turkish army fails to destroy pkk' and 'pkk keeps attacking' is not only wrong but sounds also a litle bit pro pkk. After a time, the pkk became less efective in terms of military attacks and later a cease fire. Would be nice if you would show your 'sources' as well. Those operations have been described by mostly turkish sources as there are almost no pkk sources about it. Gala19000 (talk) 18:14, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I really don't understand what you want, I already added my sources(see above). You say it is Turkish victory but you don't add sources. Ferakp (talk) 07:10, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

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