Talk:Operation I-Go

Inconsistencies under 'Air attacks'

• Paragraph 3 (On 11 April...) and paragraph 5 (On 14 April 1943...) contain an almost identical list of ships damaged and/or sunk(!) three days apart and on different locations.
• The name 'van Heemskirk' in 3rd paragraph is likely wrong - it is not a proper dutch name; 'van Heemskerk' is.

NaN (82.95.203.226 (talk) 10:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC))

• • I believe that this has been fixed now. Regards Newm30 (talk) 22:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Towards the improvement of Milne Bay information, as well as I-Go content.

THANKS A MILLION & I'M ALSO ADDING THIS TO THE OPERATION I-GO TALK PAGE - MY BEST COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR REQUEST (I'll be ordering the Claringbould book and will be able to supply the page number for that within the next couple of weeks, or whatever it stretches out to, under coronavirus restrictions etc) As it happens I derived the inclusion to which it applies from the publishers synopsis, electronically, in case you felt you'd like to just put that, until I provide an actual page number. I'll also be asking the aforementioned veteran's son about the electronic availability of the National Archives document. For the basic confirmation of the weather conditions which affected flying at Milne Bay, where I'd previously accessed an online sample of Shaw's book (with omissions and without page numbers other than that it was in the middle of Chapter 1: Mission X / "The area had a low cloud base for most of the year and the nearby mountains could make flying a dangerous proposition") i.e. in Rag Tag Fleet (etc)... - I've also found an interview with one of the many pilots I knew, whom my own late father flew with, in 75 Squadron throughout 1942: Arthur 'Nat' Gould to be found at the (UNSW/ Canberra) Australians at War Film Archive http://australiansatwarfilmarchive.unsw.edu.au/archive/1431-arthur-gould - available there in various forms of media, but the non-PDF transcript there has him saying on tape5/part8 at the 7.00 min. mark: "The problem with that was you were doing a couple of hundred miles and hour round and round in low cloud, dodging the cloud and watching the mountain on that side and so on." This same quote appears in the Arthur Nat Gould chapter of a book called Voices of War (I'm having the same trouble with both omissions and 'no page numbers' shown, electronically). Again, I know from the tape position (given the book itself was a transcript) that it's exactly (this time) 'smack bang' in the middle of the chapter. [PLEASE SEE UPDATED VERSION OF THIS PARAGRAPH, UNDERNEATH HERE!!!] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.244.158 (talk) 16:31, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

AS AGREED WITH AustralianRupert

Towards the improvement of Milne Bay information, as well as I-Go content:

THANKS A MILLION - BRILLIANTLY ENCAPSULATED! - MY BEST COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR REQUEST FOLLOWS:

I'll be ordering the Claringbould book THIS WEEK, and will be able to supply the page number for that by the end of spring/beginning of summer, because I've just realised its official release date is September 1 but they sometimes send orders out a few weeks prior! As it happens I derived the inclusion to which it applies from the publishers synopsis/ i.e. no doubt also its very relevant & specific back-cover blurb, electronically, in case you felt you'd like to just put that, until I provide an actual page number. I'll also be asking the aforementioned veteran's son about the electronic availability of the National Archives document[UPDATE ON THAT AFTER THIS PARAGRAPH WAS FIRST POSTED: IT'S A [as stated..] Confirmatory Memorandum and is based on a Pilot's Report, to be found via the National Archives site: https://www.naa.gov.au/ and under the search words: 'RAAF Aircraft Crash Records' - with 14 files, each having a Contents-Page type listing of aircraft serial no's. Then see A29-77 to find this report/document. Now, for the basic evidence on how the weather conditions which affected flying at Milne Bay, where I'd previously accessed an online sample of Shaw's book (with omissions and without page numbers other than that it was in the middle of Chapter 1: Mission X / "The area had a low cloud base for most of the year and the nearby mountains could make flying a dangerous proposition") i.e. in a Google sample of Rag Tag Fleet...(etc)... [Even today, if you fly with Air Nuigini there's something like a 1 in 3 chance you'll have to abort the whole excursion and go back to Port Moresby and try again tomorrow, or that kind of thing at least!]- However I've also found an interview with one of the many pilots I knew, whom my own late father flew with, in 75 Squadron throughout 1942: Arthur 'Nat' Gould to be found at the (UNSW/ Canberra) Australians at War Film Archive http://australiansatwarfilmarchive.unsw.edu.au/archive/1431-arthur-gould - available there in various forms of media, but it's the non-PDF transcript there that has him saying on tape5/part8 at the 7.00 min. mark: "The problem with that was you were doing a couple of hundred miles and hour round and round in low cloud, dodging the cloud and watching the mountain on that side and so on." This same quote appears in the Arthur Nat Gould chapter of a book called Voices of War, published by Hachette-Livre in 2006 (I'm having the same trouble with both omissions and 'no page numbers' with what I can find electronically, as well). Again however. I know from the tape position (given the book itself, incl. his chapter, was simply made up of grammatically-corrected, smoothed-out transcripts) that it's exactly (this time) 'smack bang' in the middle of the chapter called Arthur 'Nat' Gould. PLEASE SEE THE ABSOLUTE DETAIL ON THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE SITE etc KINDLY SUPPLIED BY THE AWM RESEARCH CENTRE, BELOW:

Australian War Memorial Research Centre

Response to your Reference Other Question: RCIS82840

Our response to your Question RCIS82840 is:

Dear P,

Thank you for your telephone enquiry to the Research Centre of the Australian War Memorial.

The link to our online guide to researching someone who served with the RAAF during WW2 can be found on our website here, https://www.awm.gov.au/research/guide/ww2-raaf

In the guide, under the heading 'other sources' you'll read:

"RAAF aircraft crash reports (NAA series A9845). Reports were produced whenever an aircraft was involved in an accident. Details were given on the type of aircraft including registration number, crew numbers, their names and rank, injuries and fatalities. In some serious accident cases courts of inquiry were convened, files were raised for these cases. The majority of the records (which may not be a complete set) are World War II era."

This is the series of records held with the National Archives of Australia (NAA) that I believe you are most likely to find a confirmatory memorandum re the crash in which 401792 Norman Houghton was involved. The series is organized by name of aircraft, in this case Kittyhawk A29. As you are looking for A29-77, you will need to open each of the online records (see attached sheet) on the NAA website, and read the first page to see the contents of that file. There are 14 files.

I hope this information assists with your research.

Yours sincerely,

Acting Online Reference Manager | Research Centre

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.244.158 (talk) 16:34, 3 June 2020 (UTC) 

G'day, I have expanded the article a bit now to hopefully cover off on most of your comments above. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 13:07, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Rupert, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! JUST GREAT! I'm glad you're aware of Johnston! He got onto some of Dad's outspoken comments, on lack of leadership after John Jackson died at Port Moresby, without really needing me (like others arguably might have, to some greater degree). I'm thinking of the '44 Days' chapter in 'Whispering Death'. Cheers, P. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.244.158 (talk) 14:18, 4 June 2020 (UTC)