Talk:Operation Prime Chance

Article needing sources?

The article reportedly needs sources. I suggest to add USSOCOM 20th Anniversary History and Joint Special Operations in Support of Earnest Will. With the accounts of pilots of TF160, TF118 and SBU crewmen already quoted, it seems enough to remove the "more sources" tag, don't you think ? Rob1bureau 22:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

EODMU FIVE and EODMU SIX

SpiderEOD's recent edit summary said, "EODMU FIVE and EODMU SIX operated from the two barges for the duration of the operation." SpiderEOD, how about furnishing a source and adding the specific names to the order of battle? PRRfan (talk) 16:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Common nouns

Hi, Paulinsaudi. I'm all for taking the windbaggery out of military-speak, as I believe you were trying to do with your demoting of the various nouns. But I think that in each case, the text was referring specifically to the U.S. Army, the U.S. Air Force, the Navy's EOD teams etc. 04:41, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah, you're right. Still looks wrong to me, but not wrong enough to argue for changing WP style. PRRfan (talk) 04:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but why I go around fixing it on page after page is question better left to geriatric psycology. I suppose everyone is picky about something and this is just my thing. As a rule, Americans over-capitalize. At some point, common usage will be accepted as correct. Until then, I continue to fight the tide. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 06:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey! I'd forgotten we'd gone around on this before, Paulinsaudi. Here's my take on this particular instance ("...Navy frigates and destroyers..."): there is no reason to have "Navy" in the sentence at all if it is not referring specifically to the U.S. Navy; "frigates and destroyers" are naval vessels, and so "navy" would be redundant and hence unnecessary. But the sentence is specifically noting that the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy were working together, and therefore the proper noun, capitalized, is meant. PRRfan (talk) 03:12, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

We can split the difference one of two ways. We can add A "US" to make "US Navy," or we can eliminate "navy" altogether. I would suppose simplifying is the best way to go. What think you? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 06:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

How about this, which would add one "U.S." and delete an unnecessary "army" and "navy" from the paragraph: "The two operations were intertwined — U.S. Army helicopters flew nighttime search-and-destroy missions from U.S. Navy frigates and destroyers and from two leased barges in the northern Persian Gulf. Navy SEALs and explosive ordnance disposal units operated from the barges as well. But while Earnest Will was the widely publicized reaction to Kuwaiti pleas for help, Prime Chance was secret. The helicopters flew at night, slipping to and from flight decks under cover of darkness..." PRRfan (talk) 13:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Missing Marine Detachment B 1/4

Operation Prime Chance taking place aboard Mobile Operating Base DB Hercules and DB Winbrown VII also included Marine Detachments from B 1/4 under CMAGTF 3-88 Which operated in Support of Operation Ernest Will off of the USS Dubuque LPD8 from June 23 1988 until November 1988 B 1/4 1st Platoon, Commander Lt Herron was deployed aboard Winbrown VII B 1/4 3rd Platoon, Commander Lt Fitzpatrick was Deployed aboard the Hercules

CMAGTF 3-88 Dubuque LPD8 relieved CMAGTF 2-88 Trenton LPD10 on 23 June 1988. The final mission assignment for the Trenton was to fly both Marine Detachments north onto both barges. On the 1st Flight, the CH46 Sea Knight crash landed onto the upper flight deck of the Hercules. There were no injuries to personnel but the flight deck was closed and the remaining Marine Detachments arrived later via Vessel. I was aboard the 1st Flight that crashed Gunnercorps@aol.com Ronald Miller 108.235.6.107 (talk) 02:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)