Talk:Opposition Bloc

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Aleksandr Grigoryev in topic Party or alliance?

Orphaned references in Opposition Bloc

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Opposition Bloc's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Olszanski":

  • From Party of Regions: Olszański, Tadeusz A. (29 Sep 2010). "The Party of Regions monopolises power in Ukraine". OSW Commentary. Centre for Eastern Studies (OSW). Retrieved 3 Aug 2011.
  • From Civil Position: Olszański, Tadeusz A. (17 September 2014), Ukraine’s political parties at the start of the election campaign, OSW—Centre for Eastern Studies

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 17:21, 26 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned references in Opposition Bloc

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Opposition Bloc's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "newUKRelectionlawof171111":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 23:47, 17 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned references in Opposition Bloc

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Opposition Bloc's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "allcountedCECIU81114":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 23:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Pro russian?

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While the party is more moderate and less confrontational about its position on russia than other Ukrainian politcal parties it is hardly pro russian and is not sepratist. russophillia (or pro russian) isn't really a political ideology in the same way pro europeanism is and while the term can applied to some parties i dont think it applies here. The bloc is against sepratism and disagrees with russia's elite and putin. Listing that the party supports the russian/russophone minority, is a better way of describing the parties stance on this issue in my opinion and in the sake of neutrality. TURTLOS (talk)

It's reliably sourced. Your position is WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Please don't remove sourced content again. If you wish to contest this, find reliable secondary sources that challenge the 'pro-Russian'. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 10:23, 17 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
I didn't edit the page simply because i do not like it I do not think i have any biases in this area im not some sort of apparatchik editing things to advance my own agenda. I edited the page because out of all of the policies listed about the party there was nothing pro-kremlin. The party support the peace agreement and wants to protect ukraine's russian/russophone minority but neither policy shows some sort of Putinist or sesesionist attitude, the party seems to be quite anti secessionist. I know you have a source claiming that the group is pro-russian without much explanation about how the party is pro russian. With that in mind i considered that listing the party is pro russian is a little bit odd. I think that the party should be listed as having some sort of russian minority politics in the way that Party of Socialists of the Republic of Moldova . Another thing to point out is that the site that says the groups is pro Russian is financed by the Polish government, a government which was very supportive of the current ukranian government (possibly until very recently). im not calling foul play on the Centre for Eastern Studies report nor am i implying that they are just a moutpiece for the polish government im just suggesting that this should be taken into account. TURTLOS (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:45, 18 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Centre-left?

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Could someone please point out where in the half hour programme used as a reference added here for the party as being centre-left. Sorry, but (per WP:BURDEN) lengthy current affairs programmes need to be time stamped, just as page numbers are required for lengthy articles or books.

Who identified them as being centre-left is equally as important. Personally, I find it highly dubious. I know Tadeusz Olszański has described the party as being social-liberal and pro-Russian, but it's difficult to reconcile this with a party calling for the repeal of anti-discrimination amendments to the labour laws in favour of pro-LGBT rights (per the 2016 ILGA annual review, page 170). There's something not quite right about any of this being indicative of a leftist/social-liberalist stance. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:06, 14 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Party or alliance?

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This article identifies "Opposition Bloc" as a political party but it appears to be structured more like a political alliance. I think some clarification is needed. Charles Essie (talk) 18:34, 1 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Charles Essie, it is the way the Ukrainian laws are. Smaller parties may unite into bigger one without officially purging its own existence. In such way there existed the party of Yulia Tymoshenko, Faterland -- the United Opposition. It is like the way Ukraine does not recognize a dual citizenship, while half of the country has it. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:42, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
In exactly same way there was structured the Party of Regions uniting several smaller parties, while at the same time showing as it is one monolithic political entity. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:49, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Reply