Talk:Oral and maxillofacial surgery
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editThis article needs major cleanup - grammar needs to be fixed, external links would be lovely, and the list at the bottom needs to be less ugly!! Junkyardprince | Tark 23:30, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Editing recommended for "Changes to length of training and course curriculum" in UK section: There are several improvements which ought to be made. Firstly the throwaway line about how US OMFS are well-rounded/shorter training, while factually accurate, has an unintended tone of voice and seems to suggest a preference for one or the other. If this information is considered to be desirable for the general Wikipedia readership then it needs editing, otherwise it probably should be omitted. Hmm this has just highlighted the problem of trying to meet the needs of the general public and the needs of an informed readership in the same article. Second, the comment about official recognition during the switch to dual qualification phase should probably be omitted or edited as there were many reasons for the change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.191.138 (talk • contribs) 13:12, December 30, 2006
UK & Europe
editThe United Kingdom is part of Europe and a member of the E.U. I think the writer here wanted to mention the differential terminology; so I will try to preserve this in my edit. Japsai (talk) 09:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I dont know how, but it would be nice if someone could make it that typing in 'maxfax' is routed here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.74.132 (talk) 12:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Done! Jwri7474 (talk) 13:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Merge?
edit- Support. Someone may have abandoned this merge tag, but I definitely concur that Oral and maxillofacial surgeon should be combined with this; there is no reason for there to be a division. --mordicai. 20:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
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editThis article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Dental Degree + OMFS training for MD graduates
editThere are a number of programs (not only in the US) that are becoming more open to the idea of granting MD graduates advance standing into Dental school and then allowing them to enter OMFS training. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwri7474 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Take a look at Oral and maxillofacial surgery#In Australia, New Zealand, and North America. The content in that section is not even understandable. But I am going to be fair. I hope someone who somehow understands can go-ahead and improve that section.
After completion of surgical training most undertake final specialty examinations: US: "Board Certified (ABOMS)", Australia/NZ: FRACDS, or Canada: "FRCDC". Some colleges offer membership or fellowships in oral/maxillofacial surgery: MOralSurg RCS, M(OMS) RCPS, FFD RCSI, FEBOS, FACOMS, FFD RCS, FAMS, FCDSHK, FCMFOS (SA)
I might be quoting out of context, but the readers with average medical knowledge need to spend extra time and effort to decipher the meaning. I guess SA = South Africa. Tony85poon (talk) 02:06, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Sources pro- and con- the usage of "maxillofacial" vs. "maxillo-facial"
editI don't have the access to edit the article but if anybody wants to put the below in the article, here y'go.
- The EU use "oral and maxillo-facial", eg "European guidelines for specialty training in oral and maxillo-facial surgery" (see [1]) and "DIRECTIVE 2001/19/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 14 May 2001" (see [2])
- The UK use "oral and maxillofacial" but abbreviates it OMF (eg [3] or [4])
- The US use "oral and maxillofacial" and abbreviates it OM (I think)
- Variants include "Oro-Maxillo-Facial Surgery" (OMFS) (see [5]) or - crazily - "Cranio-Maxillo-Facial Surgery" (CMFS) (see [6])
- See also "International Guidelines for Specialty Training and Education in Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery" (see [7])
Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 23:49, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Entertainment? Really?
editIt says the type of occupation is "Entertainment". I believe "Medical" would be more appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.77.126.50 (talk) 20:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- It's a problem on the template. Trying to figure out how to correct.192.77.126.50 (talk) 16:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Create a page for gueules cassées / broken faces?
editThere is a page on the French Wikipedia for gueules cassées meaning 'broken faces' which I think is a subject which either warrants a reference on here or an entire page to itself on the English language wiki. It refers to the innovative medical treatment and subsequent social treatment in France of men who lost their faces in the Great War. Five were paraded at the Versailles talks in Paris. We have a page for Léon Dufourmentel but I think more is warranted. I would create it myself but (a) I would have to rely on Google Translate which is only doing a so-so job and (b) I am too timid. SandJ-on-WP (talk) 16:01, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- done Sander1453 (talk) 23:42, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- But an extra pair of eyes from the medical side would be welcome. Sander1453 (talk) 23:30, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Split
editThe sub-section on regulation in the US is about a third of the article, so I think we should consider splitting it to a separate article. What do you think? WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:10, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Agree, Regulation of oral and maxillofacial surgery in the United States as a proposed title; and it would be better once that is done to split into current regulation and history for ease of reading. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:10, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Cheeky request for help at another article, please?
editThe section Physical attractiveness#Jawline currently reads like an anatomy textbook. Would anyone here care to translate it into English, please? (I realise that the medical terms are needed when precision is paramount but seem excessive in this case, the equivalent of converting "about ten miles" to metric like this: "10 miles (16,093,440 mm)". My thanks to anyone who feels so inclined. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:56, 7 February 2022 (UTC)