Talk:Osceola Township, Osceola County, Michigan

Water controversy

@John from Idegon: This unincorporated township has been resisting the increasing demands on its natural resources by one of the world's 50 largest corporations for over a dozen years. There's nothing "recent," about this. It's an unfortunately common occurrence consistent with Nestlé's imperious and notorious behavior around the globe. The issue in the tiny community is increasingly drawing national attention. Nestle's spin on the situation trivializes it. Your rapid and autonomous removal of my edits from earlier today seems precipitous to say the least. With all due respect, please read the cited sources before jumping to conclusions. Activist (talk) 20:37, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm quite aware of this issue. I'm also aware that it has been going on for 15+/- years. In a township whose history dates from the early 19th century, that is recent. Since there are numerous sources available on this township's history, discussing only this one relatively speaking recent event is a violation of WP:WEIGHT. I have no objection to a mention of this ongoing event in the context of a greater history of this township. However, to only cover this single ongoing environmental issue is clearly WP:COATRACK. That's what happens when you are writing about an issue rather than the subject of the article, which is this township. John from Idegon (talk) 21:05, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

And from your perspective, we should remove this mention from the Canadian region's article: More recently (if we are going to assert "Recentism," there's the case of of course. Perhaps you should make a similar argument there, as much of the 11-year-old article has suddenly been dominated by another occurrence.) (Credit for the title of this edit: Water and Power: The Conflict over Los Angeles Water Supply in the Owens Valley – by William L. Kahrl) Activist (talk) 22:17, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

References

(edit conflict)And yet another revert. Please follow WP:BRD, which has nothing whatsoever to do with sourcing. WP:V does not guarantee inclusion. For disputed edits, which this is, WP:CONSENSUS is required. John from Idegon (talk) 22:20, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFF John from Idegon (talk) 22:20, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

You've autonomously removed my legitimate edits, about a issue that has dominated a town, as you've conceded, for 15 years, with no thought to bothering to solicit or efforts to achieve a consensus. I've discussed them on the Talk page. Your 3RR removals deprive other editors of seeing the content you've removed. Now you're claiming I've "threatened" you. You're going to have to help me out here. What threats do you imagine I've made? WWJD? Activist (talk) 22:43, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

I'll respond to your edit summary, since that was at least constructive. How to move forward? Simple: Write a comprehensive history of the township including a line or two about the water issue, all in one section titled "History".

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Knock your socks off. I haven't the time. John from Idegon (talk) 03:34, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Nestle has caused chaos in this township of only 300 or so families. The local resistance to its resource withdrawals has dominated discussion for over a decade. This is the most recent update of the status of the dispute. You're obviously not going to be happy with whatever I write, so how about you write it? Try not to launch into one of your vulgar diatribes but just deal with the issues. Activist (talk) 17:33, 26 April 2018 (UTC)