Talk:Otto Hahn/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: HĐ (talk · contribs) 07:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I will be reviewing this article. As I am an editor specialized in popular culture and, while a science enthusiast, a non-science editor, I hope my review would be totally unbiased and comprehensive, HĐ (talk) 07:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Quick comment There is a mantainance tag in the "Early life" section. HĐ (talk) 07:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Y Removed drive-by tag. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:51, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Review

Overall a well written article. I just have finished reading up to "Discovery of mesothorium I", and have a few minor concerns:

• I think nazism would be preferable to national socialism, given that the term "nazism" is more well-known

  I don't like that slang term, but sure. (It is deprecated in MilHist articles.) Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

  Interesting... I wonder why. HĐ (talk) 06:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

• Any information on from when till when was Hahn incarcenated?

  From 3 July 1945 to 3 January 1946. It is in the article. Added to the lead. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

• "Considered by many" is vague; any possible attribution?

  deleted this; re-wrote the lead. I never pay much attention to the lead. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

• I think we need a literal translation of Klinger Oberrealschule (is it a high school?)

  I would translate Oberrealschule as "high school". Wikipedia says

  Die Oberrealschule ist eine ehemalige Schulform in Deutschland, Österreich und der Schweiz, die oft als Alternative zu den meist als Lateinschulen ausgelegten Gymnasien entstand. Sie ermöglichte in der Regel das Studium naturwissenschaftlicher Fächer. Die Bezeichnung wird heute nicht mehr verwendet.

  The Oberrealschule is a former type of school in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, which emerged as an alternative to the gymnasiums, which were mostly designed as Latin schools. As a rule, it made it possible to study natural science subjects. The term is no longer used.

  The school still exists; it is just called the Klinger Schule today. It has no Wikipedia entry. It is named after Max Klinger, the sculptor. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

• Ditto with On Bromine Derivates of Isoeugenol (I am not sure though)

  That's in English. Removed the italics. Isoeugenol is an organic compound. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

  Thanks for clarifying. For a non-native speaker it's a challenge for me to understand scentific terms, HĐ (talk) 06:39, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

• A possible conversion of the German mark to today's value would be helpful in understanding how much did the elements worth

  We don't have a template for it. But gold is trading at €52.85 per g, and the pre-1914 mark was worth 0.385 g of gold. that would be worth €20.35 today. So 100 marks would be €2,035. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

• Along the way, Hahn determined that just as he was unable to separate thorium from radiothorium, so he could not separate mesothorium from radium. → This sounds a bit off, was there a grammatical error?

  It's fine. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

• Physicists were more accepting of Hahn's work, and he began attending a colloquium at the Physics Institute conducted by Heinrich Rubens. It was at one of these where → Unsure of what the bolded text means

  Colloquia. Added that word. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Given that the prose is the longest which I've ever reviewed, this GAN may take quite a while. — HĐ (talk) 04:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

• I can see there are some "unsourced" awards listed at "Honors and awards" section. I think it's better that all awards have corresponding citations

  Not really. I had them in prose, but another editor preferred them in point form. I have added refs to each dot point. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

• I'd consider merging the "Legacy" section somewhere, or just removing it. I personally opt against a section with two sentences

  Moved to the awards section. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

• The prose is great! I may have missed some points here and there, and will try to give a second read-through before passing the GAN, HĐ (talk) 02:05, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

• Passed the GAN. I have no reasons to withhold the nomination. Brilliant work with the article! HĐ (talk) 04:37, 28 August 2020 (UTC)