Talk:Outline of the Ottoman Empire

Proposal: Rename to Outline of the Ottoman Empire

I propose that the article be renamed to Outline of the Ottoman Empire.

Indexes on Wikipedia are alphabetical topic lists. Therefore, the title of this implies that it is an alphabetical index, which can be misleading, as the reader gets something other than what he was expecting. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Index+of+&namespace=0

The format of this article is a structured topic list - articles of this type on Wikipedia are called "outlines". See Wikipedia's collection of outlines at Portal:Contents/Outlines.

Here are some examples of how other outlines are named:

• Outline of the American Civil War
• Outline of the United Kingdom
• Outline of Japan
• Outline of ancient Rome
• Outline of architecture

There are about 500 "Outline of" articles, on many major subjects, so this one on the Ottoman Empire will be in good company.

What do you think?

The Transhumanist 15:30, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

• Keep: Being the creator of the page I don’t see much difference between the two topics. However outlines are usually texts with links. In indexes, only the links are listed. In the Index of Ottoman Empire-related topics except for the short introductory paragraph only the links are listed which makes the article more index-like. So I think it should be kept as it is. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Outlines are of two basic types: sentence outlines, and topic outlines. Topic outlines typically have just links. Meanwhile, virtually all of the indexes on Wikipedia are alphabetical. The Transhumanist 02:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved per request. - GTBacchus^(talk) 00:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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Index of Ottoman Empire-related topics → Outline of the Ottoman Empire – To be inline with other Category:WikiProject_Outlines_articles articles. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:30, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Wikipedia does include index pages, part of the alternate navigation system. We have several hundred index pages. Special:PrefixIndex/Index_of 65.93.15.213 (talk) 05:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
• Comment This page is formatted like other Wikipedia Index Pages, and like Outline pages. Perhaps it should be rebuilt as two, one Index (alphabetical) and one Outline (bulleted list) 65.93.15.213 (talk) 05:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
  • But this one is not an index page, it is an outline that's bunched together. If someone wants to make an additional alphabetical index, that's fine. But this page has been made into an outline, and the page history should reflect that. A copy of the page can serve as the base content for index, but not the other way around. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 07:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

List instead of a paragraph

I appreciate efforts to change the style of the article by placing the links in a list instead of a paragraph. But is it necessary ? In most "list of articles of ..." and "outline of ... " the links are presented in paragraphs and I don’t see why the change is made here. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Outlines should be in hierarchical bullet-points. This article did not match either outlines or indexes style, but was closer to an outline; so I formatted it that way. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the topic to break it down any further. We can use columns if there are too many items per heading (Wikipedia:OUTLINES#Outline_format). While an outline usually starts as a topic outline (just bullet-point links), it is natural for it to become sentence outline (links plus short description).

"In most "list of articles of ..." and "outline of ... " the links are presented in paragraphs" is not accurate. Since this is an outline, looking at some of pages in Category:Outlines, I counted 60 uses of bullet-points, 6 uses of paragraphs, and 5 uses I was not sure how to classify (navboxes, tables, etc.). The bullet-point format is predominant. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:56, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Modern Turkish alternative names

• Here is English Wikipedia and we don't have to add modern Turkish alternative names. Especially, incorrect and/or disputed names. Please see Talk:List of battles involving the Ottoman Empire#Bapheus. Takabeg (talk) 05:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Quick explanation of Wikipedia outlines

"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure), and as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. The hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets. See Wikipedia:Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 00:11, 9 August 2015 (UTC)