Talk:Ovation (American TV channel)

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I along with a group of friends & neighbors totally enjoy Boston Legal. Our question & concern is your limited episodes. First we hope you'll continue carrying the show & secondly will there be a wider group of episodes? In the time we've become again hooked on the show, we've seen the same shows more than twice. Please please give your viewers what they want. It's also allowed us to enjoy quite a few of your movies! And donate to the Arts! Thanks for your time. Linda454 (talk) 22:18, 7 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Sorry to add questions to Ovation on the talk page. I was unable to find any place for questions. Someone please help me out!? Thanks! Linda454 (talk) 22:21, 7 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Hi Wikipedia! I’m on the staff at Ovation so I have a conflict of interest. According to the box on top of the page, it’s lacking the necessary citations for verification. The proposals below fix that and offer some updated content, too.

Edit request

I. What I think should be changed:

Please replace the first sentence in the Lead paragraph:

Ovation is an American television network whose focus is on the fine arts and contemporary culture.

Please replace with:

Ovation is an American television network,[1][2] and digital media company,[3] whose focus is on the fine arts[4] and culture. [5]

Why I think it should be changed:

The suggestion replaces the current unsourced version with a new one based on reliable sources. The new version reflects the company’s expanded scope as supported by leading publications. I also removed “contemporary” as a descriptor of culture, because it’s not supported by the sources.

References supporting the possible change::[1][2], [3], [4], [5]


II. What I think should be changed:

Please remove the second sentence in the Lead paragraph:

The network is owned by Ovation LLC, which is made up of a joint venture of Hubbard Media Group, and the private-equity funds Corporate Partners II, Arcadia Investment Partners, and Perry Capital.

Why I think it should be changed:

The sentence contains no citations and offers an excessive level of detail about minority stakeholders that doesn’t belong in the article, let alone the Lead. Information about ownership is already included in the History section.

III. What I think should be changed:

Please add a sentence after the first sentence in the Lead paragraph:

Ovation was created in 1996.[6][4][7] Its programming includes Inside the Actors Studio,[1] Murdoch Mysteries,[8] and Shakespeare & Hathaway: Private Investigators.[9] Ovation also operates the travel and lifestyle-focused[10] streaming platform Journy.[3]

Why I think it should be changed:

As it is written now, the Lead contains no information about the company’s origins, its leading programming or the major streaming service it launched. Further down, I’ve also proposed a sentence about the streaming service to be added to the body of the text.

References supporting the possible change: [11][4][7][1][8][8][9][10] [3]



IV. What I think should be changed:

Please replace the first paragraph of the History section.

The channel was launched in 1996, mainly with spread-out coverage throughout the country and no satellite carriage, with its major coverage with the urban base of Time Warner Cable. Under this form, its carriage was limited, as cable providers did not see much popularity or requests for the arts-based network, as had been seen in the past with networks like CBS Cable, or former arts networks that went for a more broad-based focus, including Bravo and A&E.

Please replace with: Ovation was created in 1996[6] as a network focused on classical and fine arts-related programming.[4]


Why I think it should be changed:

The paragraph is unsourced and aside from the date of founding, I can’t find sources to support the rest. The paragraph seems to veer off-topic and delves into unnecessary detail that doesn’t seem encyclopedic. The replacement I’ve suggested establishes the date of founding using high quality sources.

References supporting the possible change: [6][4]

V. What I think should be changed:

Please replace the second, third and fourth sentences in the second paragraph of the History section:

In June 2007, the network was re-launched, coinciding with its addition by DirecTV, which gave the channel full national coverage. In 2008, Ovation also became available on Dish. With the relaunch, Ovation TV claimed an "energetic" new look and a new primetime schedule revolving around "genre nights" dedicated to performance, people, and film.[12]

Please replace with:

In June 2007, Ovation became available on DirecTV, giving it a bigger audience.[4] The network expanded its programming to include photography, film, and contemporary music.[4] Following its inclusion on DirecTV, Ovation added genre nights for programming including theater, design, and artist profiles.[7] In 2008, Ovation acquired the network International Music Feed,[5] absorbing some of its programming and taking over its slot on the Dish Network.[13]

Why I think it should be changed:

The current second sentence is unsourced. I replaced it with a version sourced to a leading publication. The third sentence contains no citations and the fourth sentence cites a broken link that I couldn’t recover. The existing language is also promotional. I’ve found reliable sources with similar content to these sentences for the replacement.

References supporting the possible change: [4] [4][7][5][13]


VI. 'What I think should be changed:

Please add a sentence after the last sentence of the second paragraph of the History section:

In 2017,[14] Ovation created the travel and lifestyle-focused[10] streaming platform Journy,[3] which became available on Roku and Xumo devices.[15]

Why I think it should be changed:

The creation of the streaming service was covered by multiple press outlets. I also suggested adding it to the Lead in item I, so if approved there, it should appear in the body of the article as well.

References supporting the possible change: [14][10][3]


VII. 'What I think should be changed:

Please replace the first and second sentences of the third paragraph in the History section:

The network's investment by The Weinstein Company would come into question in October 2017, when Harvey Weinstein's sexual assault and abuse allegations came to light. Two weeks after the first public reports, the network's board notified Harvey Weinstein on October 24 that he would be expelled from any further involvement in Ovation.

Please replace with: In October 2017, Ovation’s board of directors voted to expel Harvey Weinstein from the board after he was publicly accused of sexual assault and abuse. [16]


Why I think it should be changed:

As written, the sentences contain no citations. I could not find a source for the first sentence. It seems a bit like editorializing. The second sentence was easily sourced to leading publication.

References supporting the possible change: [16]


VIII. What I think should be changed:

Please remove the second paragraph under the Carriage section and the first paragraph under the Programming section:

The network was carried on Dish until April 6, 2015, when it was removed from that provider at a nadir for the network where it originated little to no programming and had drifted towards carrying low-prestige Hollywood films out of format. Providers refused to renew the network under this guise, and by 2017, it had begun to acquire overseas and prestige product anew to avert the network's demise.

Ovation programming is a mix of original and acquired television series, films, documentaries and specials, targeting a multi-generational audience.

Why I think it should be changed:

The paragraphs are unsourced. I could not find sourcing for the first paragraph. The second paragraph contains the type of advertising language noted in the warning flag: “Ovation programming is a mix of original and acquired television series, films, documentaries and specials, targeting a multi-generational audience.”

References

  1. ^ a b c d James, Meg (24 September 2018). "'Inside the Actors Studio' is moving to Ovation TV; James Lipton will fade to a behind-the-scenes role". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 19 July 2023.
  2. ^ a b Wallenstein, Andrew (21 August 2013). "James Franco Gets His Own TV Series". Variety. Retrieved 2 August 2023.
  3. ^ a b c d e f White, Peter (22 January 2019). "Ovation's Streaming Service Journy Moves Into Originals With Second Season Of 'Chasing The Sun'". Deadline. Retrieved 18 July 2023.
  4. ^ a b c d e f g h i j Norkdyke, Kimberly; Mayberry, Carly (20 June 2007). "Relaunched arts channel Ovation has broader focus". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 3 August 2023.
  5. ^ a b c d Dempsy, John (9 January 2008). "Ovation claps for Int'l Music". Variety. Retrieved 3 August 2023.
  6. ^ a b c Kilian, Michael (12 May 1996). "SITTING OVATION". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 3 August 2023.
  7. ^ a b c d Elber, Lynn (3 July 200). "Ovation TV Relaunches With New Reach". The Oklahoman. Retrieved 3 August 2023.
  8. ^ a b c Schaefer, Stephen (9 February 2023). "Yannick Bisson back on the case in new season of 'Murdoch Mysteries'". Boston Herald. Retrieved 4 August 2023.
  9. ^ a b "Ovation imports 'Shakespeare & Hathaway'". New Hampshire Union Leader. 24 June 2023. Retrieved 4 August 2023.
  10. ^ a b c d Alessi, Sara (13 October 2017). "Ovation Launches Digital Travel-Lifestyle Channel Journy". worldscreen. Retrieved 3 August 2023.
  11. ^ Kilian, Michael (12 May 1996). "SITTING OVATION". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 3 August 2023.
  12. ^ "Yahoo". Yahoo.com. Retrieved 3 August 2023.
  13. ^ a b "Ovation TV buys music channel". Monterey Herald. 8 January 2008. Retrieved 3 August 2023.
  14. ^ a b "Ovation on a Journy with new OTT service". Television Business International. 13 October 2017. Retrieved 9 August 2023.
  15. ^ "Ovation launches Journy VoD on Roku, Xumo". Advanced Television. 13 October 2023. Retrieved 4 October 2023.
  16. ^ a b Holloway, Daniel (24 October 2017). "Ovation Board Moves to Expel Harvey Weinstein". Variety. Retrieved 17 July 2023.

I believe that the changes suggested above should supply the necessary citations for verification that were lacking in the original article. I therefore ask that the flag at the top of the page be removed. Thank you for your time and assistance. Brennon16 (talk) 19:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Reply 6-DEC-2023

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Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request.

Edit request review 6-DEC-2023

Ovation is an American television network, and digital media company,whose focus is on the fine arts and culture. Ovation was created in 1996. Its programming includes Inside the Actors Studio, Murdoch Mysteries, and Shakespeare & Hathaway: Private Investigators. Ovation also operates the travel and lifestyle-focused streaming platform Journy.
  Already done.[note 1]


Ovation was created in 1996[6] as a network focused on classical and fine arts-related programming
  Unable to implement.[note 2]


In June 2007, Ovation became available on DirecTV, giving it a bigger audience. The network expanded its programming to include photography, film, and contemporary music. Following its inclusion on DirecTV, Ovation added genre nights for programming including theater, design, and artist profiles. In 2008, Ovation acquired the network International Music Feed, absorbing some of its programming and taking over its slot on the Dish Network.
  Unable to implement.[note 3]


In 2017, Ovation created the travel and lifestyle-focused streaming platform Journy, which became available on Roku and Xumo devices.
  Declined.[note 4]


: In October 2017, Ovation’s board of directors voted to expel Harvey Weinstein from the board after he was publicly accused of sexual assault and abuse.
  Declined.[note 5]


Delete: The network was carried on Dish until April 6, 2015, when it was removed from that provider at a nadir for the network where it originated little to no programming and had drifted towards carrying low-prestige Hollywood films out of format. Providers refused to renew the network under this guise, and by 2017, it had begun to acquire overseas and prestige product anew to avert the network's demise.
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  1. ^ It is not necessary for the lead section to contain references, as long as the references are located within the main body of the article. (See MOS:CITELEAD.)
  2. ^ This text could not be implemented because the references contain shortened ref tags without the entire reference present.
  3. ^ This text could not be implemented because the references contain shortened ref tags without the entire reference present.
  4. ^ The references in this sentence are placed in a manner which makes the entirety of its meaning unreferenced. The first words "In 2017" contain a refnote, however, a single date is not a claim statement that can be referenced because by itself, that date means nothing. If the date is referencing an action, then the action words need to be included with the refnote. For example, the following sentence would not be verifiable: "In 2017,[1] Carla[2] purchased[3] a soft-drink.[4]." By itself, the reference verifying the date does not verify that the purchase was made on that date (because it is only referencing the date) that Carla purchased it (because it only verifies that Carla is someones name, not that Carla purchased anything) or what she purchased. (See WP:INTEGRITY.)
  5. ^ The assumption made in the reasoning for this proposal is incorrect.

Regards,  Spintendo  03:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply