Talk:Ovenbird (family)

Cleanup

Is megaxenops a genus? Currently it is a redirect to Xenops which makes to reference to the genus. I know nothing about this but it's left me utterly confused.

As discussed in several pages below the subfamily covering Xenops and true Treecreepers doesn't exist as is claimed .

I appreciate this not be simple a simple family but at the very least when a link is selected the user should be presented with information covering the section that was clicked. I.e. if you click on a subfamily the article covers only that subfamily, if a tribe is selected only that tribe is covered and so on.

As it stands navigating this family is far too confusing. JohnCastle 20:58, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Outcommented species so at least it is more compact now. "As discussed in several pages below the subfamily covering Xenops and true Treecreepers doesn't exist as is claimed ." - I see no references!? The 2004/2005 papers AGREE that the Xenopini are not subspecifically distinct from WOODcreepers! Treecreepers are an entirely distinct group of birds. Maybe the new 2006 study doesn't, which I will put here shortly; it should resolve a lot of what is unresolved. Dysmorodrepanis 00:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

"As discussed in several pages below the subfamily covering Xenops and true Treecreepers doesn't exist as is claimed ." - checking the last publicatrions suggest that this statement is patently untrue. According to current knowledge, it exists exactly as given here, with a xenops and a true woodcreeper tribe. Megaxenops might belong to the former but its affiliations seem not to have been verified; it is fairly distinct and might belong to a different subfamily altogether.

The issue that Dendrocolaptinae redirects to Woodcreeper which is not correct needs to be resolved. See also my merge request. Dysmorodrepanis 01:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)