Talk:Overtaking

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Cerebral726 in topic Wrong undertaking rules in Poland


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There's a lot of material in the "further reading" section of the article, including material on road safety and psychology, that has yet to be plumbed. And that section is by no means exhaustive. Uncle G 12:38, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Definition is poor. For example, Overtaking (on the left) is allowed for a stationary vehicle in Australia when it is making a RH turn.124.176.116.154 (talk) 10:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

In English-speaking countries​

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There is no common legal ground for In English-speaking countries​?

Britain and Ireland is dependent on the European treaties and other part of the commonwelth and US is not.

  • Rather large parts of the commonwelth is actually rather related to US regulations. Gibraltar is harmonised with Spain in traffic issues.
  • The European regulations include specifications for procurement (IATE) som the contracting can be held in the common market, Brexit has not changed the definitions.

The subtitle "In English-speaking countries​" is plain wrong.

--Zzalpha (talk) 13:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Wrong undertaking rules in Poland

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Undertaking is legal on one direction roads (one direction means that there is either just one, one direction road or there is a distinct separation between lanes in opposite direction, like motorways), if there are at least 2 marked lanes in one direction. In case of two direction roads, 2-lanes in one direction are required in built-up areas, 3 outside built-up areas. Also in this case lanes have to be marked. If lanes are unmarked (they are implicit, based on road width), undertaking is forbidden (all the above is implied from article 24 of Law on Road Traffic). However, similar to the UK, it is considered a dangerous practice and is discouraged. Undertaking is also allowed in following conditions:

    • vehicle undertaken is signalizing turning left (in this case only having enough space and not breaking other traffic rules is enough)
    • vehicle undertaken is a tram - in this case undertaking or should we say then passing by on the right is preferred, unless the road layout makes it impossible). Tram tracks are usually along the center of the road, if the road is joint car-tram and cars are allowed to also move along tram track as second, left lane. However such road layout diminishes in favor of full car-tram separation.
    • vehicle that undertakes is a bicycle, providing that speeds are low and vehicle undertaken is not signalizing turning right

My change was reverted by some language purist who prefers wrong description than the correct one with some mistakes. It may be confusing, because that rules are pretty complex. So whoever wishes to reformulate that, feel free.

reference: https://lexlege.pl/prawo-o-ruchu-drogowym/art-24/ Also polish version of this article seems to be ok. Fnts7 (talk) 19:17, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'm sorry but the addition needed to be reworked before it could be added in my best opinion, due to the number of grammatical and stylistic errors, as well as just plain being confusing. It was more than just being a "Language purist". Here is my reworked version, let me know what you think. Anything entirely removed felt unnecessary or I was unable to understand what the intent of the sentence was.

Undertaking is legal on roads where there are at least two marked lanes in one direction. If lanes are unmarked, undertaking is forbidden. Undertaking is also allowed in the following situations:

  • If the vehicle being undertaken is signaling a left turn, and there is sufficient space.
  • If the vehicle being undertaken is a tram. Tram tracks are often placed in the center of the road and cars are permitted to use the tram tracks as a second, left lane.
  • If a bicycle is undertaking a vehicle, provided that the vehicle being undertaken is not signaling a right turn.

--Cerebral726 (talk) 19:32, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply